Algorithmic Handicapping (MMR) is Wrong for Overwatch

maybe this is a concause (that you express youself bad and I understand worse)

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not really. you just didn’t answer if you would believe any evidence from Blizzard itself.

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Yeah, rewrite in a easier english, maybe I can understand better and can reply. Go to work, see you later.

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Are you seriously kidding me?

You write super long essays with a “scientific” background and related issues that have deep technical and psychological dependencies, and suddenly you no longer understand an ultra simple question?

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What are you talking about? Who is “you and your group?”

So replying to you on public forums is “opposing your allegations?” :rofl:
Are you ok dude? These forums aren’t that serious btw

Do you have any proof of these baseless accusations? Again, me replying to you on public forums isn’t an “organized personal attack”

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I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that there may be other problems here than just overwatch.

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I know, like what’s this dude talking about? :rofl:

Someone replying to you on public forums, whether in agreeance or not isn’t a “targeted attack” :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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There is indeed something strange about the way he communicates. And by that I don’t mean the alleged language barrier.

Just how he structures and even formats his texts …

Well, I don’t want to “lean too far out of the window” :smiley: (german idiom)
Translator says in english it’s “to go out on a limb” :wink:

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I used “they” because I was referring to the whole “rigged matchmaker group”.

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To be fair, what benefit does a consumer have in knowing all the ins and outs of how the matchmaker works? If Activision Blizzard invested a lot of money into developing this algorithm, whether to increase the addictive nature of ranked games or to encourage new or bad players into keep playing the game by handicapping the game for them, that’s their choice isn’t it? As long as this system isn’t hurting the competitive nature of ranked, Blizzard can manipulate the matches all they want.

But if these anti-competitive handcapping people believe that this system is actually taking the competitiveness and enjoyment out of the game, then they also have all the right to present their own opinions on the matter too and ideally suggest a better alternative that’s present in other competitive games.

The first step to this is would be to prove this handcapping or foced 50/50, 40/60 or 40/40/20 even existing. Then explaining exactly why it’s not good for competitive.

Maybe that’s what this whole thread is about? I couldn’t be bothered watching the video at the top because it was too long and there was too many technical jargons being said, so my apologies on that regard. Anyways, I feel like people on both side of the fence are kind of in the wrong here.

On one side who believes this algorithmic handcapping existing and how it’s a problem, there are also those in the same group who takes it too far by saying things like even player’s hitbox and healing (yes healing) is “rigged” by the system. Which is just an absurd claim to be making and a funny joke at best. Some gravitates towards this group because they’re hardstuck in their rank and they can use this as an excuse for not improving and getting better at the game. Even if this sytem exists, that shouldn’t stop anybody from climbing if they put enough time into the game.

Then there are people on the other side who doesn’t believe in any of this nonesense of the matchmaker being “rigged”. Which is a fair opinion to be made. But instead of debating on why it’s unlikely to exist with their take, they just start name calling and making fun of these people which is unproductive.

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That’s a great one honestly. I need to start using that.

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Just awnser the damn question lmao

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I red many and many times other users talk about your discord. Is always the same story, bullying activity, opposition activity, always the same likes (also when CoC infrangments).

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What you want is that I make myself the promoter of theses that are not mine, and then to defend them. I can defend what I have said, but not what you want me to say.

If you don’t read my text and ask for justifications by altering my text how can I answer you?

Here we go, again, with personal attacks.

#24 Counter of bullying acts of the famous overwatch forum pack

A user of the usual pack who promptly abandons the civil debate to personally attack the interlocutor, with the usual support of the likes of the usual users of the pack.

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Still waiting for actual proof instead of baseless accusations.

How? Replying to someone who I don’t always agree with? ok

“Opposition activity” lmao? These are just gaming forums this isn’t a court room :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

How is giving likes a “CoC infringement?”
You literally do the same thing, you are always liking the same users.

So does this mean that you also bully others and violate the CoC?

:smirk_cat:

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Google " Counter of bullying acts of the famous overwatch forum pack "

Atm you can find a dozen of those.

After 6 months of insults and bullying with the approval of moderation (in any other forum this would not have happened) I made the counter (recently unfortunately). Baseless terminology, as anyone can notice, by doing a simple google search, is by no means indicated.

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I googled it and couldn’t find anything, especially related to me since you’re falsely accusing me :thinking:

Do you have a direct link or something?

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Ok, again trolling activity. we have come to deny even what is easily provable.

Your business.

I appeal to moderation: is this really the forum you want?

They are many, they are organized in their discord, they are willing to deny everything and the opposite of everything, trolling over and over again for the sake of it. The forum is in their hands, is this really what you want?

They troll so much: heyzeus that hates me puts like to each my posts after I made the counter about their group bullying/support bullying activities.

Moderation, where are you?

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So me not finding any direct evidence about me “targeting you” is trolling?

Still waiting for actual evidence

:sleeping:

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just to being mass reported as spam? again trolling activity?

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