Aimbots, aimbots everywhere

What I’m saying is, like it or not, you cannot ban someone for healing a cheater, because they might not even know it. Yes, someone can call it, but on what proof? Like, if I don’t see it with my own eyes, I’m not believing you.

Like another post said, it’s best to educate yourself on what cheats people use to be able to identify suspicious activity. Not saying it won’t take a bit to figure it out, but usually you can identify an aimbot as most of them always land headshots no matter the distance; and they ALWAYS pick hitscan characters.

Some players will be sneaky about it, but if it’s so obvious that most of the server can see it but you for some reason are just oblivious to it, you still deserve to get sacked along with the cheater. And more often than not the cheaters usually come with a buddy to pocket them.

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That would indeed be a funny lawsuit.

Not so much for blizz though.

Nope. Cross play on gets me in mixed groups of XBox and PC. Turn it off for XBox only and I have to wait longer to play.

Share a replay code. Until then you’re one of the many noobs that don’t know what a flick is.

Weird. I’ve played alot and never suspected anyone of hacking do far.

i dont say that there are not good players out there but like in the example you showed its inhumane! being able to zoom-shot-zoom out in one second with perfect aim?! sound so incredibly lucky or un-natural.

aiming to the head and pressing mouse 1 isnt aimbot.
but having the aim far to the side floating randomly then snap to headshot and back to float. thats aimbot!
i know about “flicking” but i dont think “flicking” will have 100% success if the person playing is human.
and sometimes you see the aim snap with a far shot and sometimes with a closeup shot.
i’ve had few very very lucky shots but its 1 to 1000.
doing it thru the whole match is strange and suspicious.
and if its true that there are not that many cheaters and the whole OW widow players are that good then OW need to tone her down like 50%

Another thing, i’ve had a lot of times where there was a cheater and i called him out and suddenly his aim got so bad and they lost the game. how?
he was afraid of mass reports so he stopped it for this match. so obvious!

unfortunately i dont know how to save the replays they all get deleted when i restart the game. even when i pin them or save the code.

This is absolutely something you’d commonly see for top pro players. This is not an unusual or inhuman shot in any way. I’m sure there’s a bit of luck involved as well - nobody is perfect.

The sudden stop between shots is because his sensitivity is extremely low sensitivity. Watch his hand as he does two nearly cross-mousepad flicks just to make that shot. As the person you replied to said, he has a mouse cam for a reason.

These types of shots are really not that uncommon for GM/top500 players. But this video is also highlighting specific good shots. You’re not seeing all the shots they miss.

Could be in your head. You probably didn’t see all the shots they missed between kills, or maybe they got a few lucky shots on you and you imagined a pattern that didn’t exist. Calling someone out for cheats could also make them feel pressured, knowing they were doing well and now they need to keep up the pace, increasing their stress level.

in that clip… lol… he gets off a head shot in 3/60 of a second on the sombra after getting visual. that’s .05 sec. pros that actually play at a lan are happy to have .15 reaction time without having to need inputs.

mouse cam literally means nothing.

let me guess, the guy doesn’t play in any live lan events?

LOL upon further investigation he at 5:25 means to flick over to baptiste but the aimbot nails kiriko. you can see his mouse movement is over dramatic to deal with kiriko intentionally. also if you count the frames on the kiriko shot from when she is visible you get .1667 sec reaction time. that is beyond absurd. if this guy can actually do that why is he not competing for money?

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trigger bot is a type of aim-assistance where the ‘hack’ clicks your mouse for you when the crosshair is over a target .

that’s what he’s using. when he mouses over a head it auto clicks for him. that’s why he nailed the kiriko with that over shot aim. the trajectory accidentally took him over kiriko’s head.

it’s also how he shot the sombra with the spinning around. you can see he over aimed by a mile but the moment he moused over sombras head it auto shot for him.

dude is a blatant cheat. I can’t believe this is video footage to try to prove he’s not cheating. ahahahaha

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Blizzard was supposed to remove bots but they goofed when they made ow2 OW1 but renamed so all scripts still work.
When your developers are worse than the casual python junkies you’re going to have a LOT of problems with the game.

just look it this gameplay. it will shatter your hopes and dreams. and it doesnt take a t500 player to do plays like this every once in a while. so deal with it you suck and drain in copium rn.

Maybe you saw a widow make a surprisingly good play? I’ve surprised myself sometimes.

That’s why I’m saying sometimes it’s not possible to figure it out during a match. Especially when you’re on the same team and have no access to kill cams from them.

Wrong, there are some that lock on the body of the enemy instead of head. Also there could be various ones programmed in ways that it locks every 1 in 3 shots, or only locks if you aim close enough to the head but would miss otherwise.

Also wrong, there are multiple cheaters who play hanzo. I even saw Mei, Zen and Hog cheaters.

I understand what you mean, someone who enables the cheater while knowing about their cheats should be banned as well. But is it doable in a fair way?
Let’s say blizzard starts banning those people, now comes the problems:

  1. They can’t go and check every single game and see if the cheating was obvious or it was someone who was hiding it really well. So they would have to implement some system that would have to decide that automatically for them, which could lead to people getting banned for being unlucky enough to end up with a cheater on their team and not realizing it.
  2. People can fake call someone on the enemy team a cheater, and now everyone on their team has to spend time and resources to actually figure out if that person is not cheating to avoid getting a ban.

Sadly I don’t see a way of implementing a fair system that bans someone for enabling a cheater and pocketing them. Would be cool to have a way to ban those who duo with a cheater at least.

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You do realize you have post death cams active by default in the settings, right? Meaning you can see how the person killed you through their eyes unless you turn it off.

Wrong. Every aimbot developed will automatically target the head unless turned off or switched. That’s why i said MOST. If it doesn’t target the head it’s referred to as an aimlock, and you don’t need to actively aim your mouse; it does it for you. The only thing those people would need to do is toggle it on and off so others don’t notice.

Less common, and also you’re nitpicking. You know what all those heroes you mentioned have in common? They can all deal crits reliably at range, so it’s no different than picking widow, S76, or Sojourn. Also, Hog is a hitscan.

Um, yes? If you’re caught directly endorsing a cheater, you should get banned.

They have a team of people that do check reports of cheating, but they only seem to do it if enough reports get sent in, possibly quicker if many arrive within a short time. There is also an automated system in place for misconduct, though that’s more of a “3 strikes and you’re out” thing.

People who do this do in fact face bans because it’s an abuse of the reporting system.

Again, if they look at video evidence and find you’ve been healing or supporting a cheater, you will get the opportunity to join them for being complicit with the act. Duo Duo cheaters have been banned before as well.

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Blizzard shot take away the ability to aim there everyone is winning.

Is this satire lmfao :joy:

do you even have an argument?

Man is this thread funny, i report aimbots daily, and get notification of people being banned daily, you can tell an aimbot real easy, watch for the snap… they will headshot someone and then snap the the next target instantly even when behind walls.

there are a lot of them out there… welcome to F2P where aimbots are as rampant as the micro transactions.

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it is still a problem, but it’s not a huge one at least. Manual reviews just need to be done more on cheating reports.

At least in GM and Master they’re more likely to just be able to tell who is cheating because they play the game a lot, but at ranks lower than Master… yeah.

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And how exactly do I make my own teammate kill me? I think I explicitly wrote that you don’t have a kill cam for people on your own team.

You said always, which was not true. I can figure out myself the reason why someone would pick a certain hero to cheat on, thanks.

We made a full circle. They are not labeled as cheaters ingame.

If a cheater played 20 games, it takes 1 game of obvious cheating to ban him. It will take 20 games to ban out every one of his “accomplices” that continued healing / playing with him during that game. Those bans would be based on the assumptions made by the people watching the game, which have no way of knowing for sure if any of those “accomplices” had knoweledge of the cheating.

So you want people to get banned for accusing someone of cheating? Cause obviously of all the accusations that happen, at least some of them are wrong.

It is not a player’s job to decide if another player is cheating or not. If I play support, I don’t want to have the responsibility for also identifying the cheaters on my team. And I should not be punished for playing the game if someone on my team is cheating.