A F2P game costs you more than a standard P2P game

Ofc it does. That is the whole reason a lot of companies prefer to go f2p.

Apex and Fortnite wouldn’t have taken off if wasn’t for the f2p model.

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if something is free you are the product.
whales pay enough to cover for hundreds of free players and the system is designed to keep you playing even when you don’t like it because it plays on sunk cost fallacy.

it’s either “play x hours and do y missions so you don’t waste the money you put in the bp” or the same but "play or you won’t get the next one for free.
it’s almost admirable in how well designed they are to artificially rope into the monetization as many people as possible.

free players are there to be content for whales to engage with.

you guys see the word “free” and immediately lose any common sense.
just as blizzard wants.

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It does, but more money into the game also means they have more resources to keep it up and improving (if they are going to use it that way is another topic btw).
Now, if you spent $1200 on a single game that’s completely on you. Played Pangya for years without using spending a single dollar (And yes, it was quite pay to win AND had the cutest/coolest costumes as cash items), didn’t spend a buck on Ragnarok Online, Tree of Savior, Albion Online, TERA, Fantasy Earth Zero and many others that I played daily for months.

Putting in a different example, I love going to the karaoke. Each time I spend like 10 bucks and I got once or twice a month. In the end of a few years it’s a lot of money. But hey, I had fun so I don’t regret it.

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Easy halo one of the mist successful pvp games and their formula works perfect, one time cost and every 3 years release a full sequal game, that was untill the game fell into the F2P pit

I mean, be real here… trap? thats $80 for 2 years worth of gameplay and content… Thats not bad at all… not really a trap. Now, for people using other currencies there is an issue, the exchange rates mean the value isnt there… instead of spending the equivalent of $80 usd its hundreds - for them its bad. If I expect them to make new content regularly, I should be willing to pay SOMETHING. Now its F2P and thats awesome for people who cant. And the main gated content is on the free… I for one will wait to see the pass and see how hard the gating is for content before I choose to call this a bad decision. The Hearthstone new battlegrounds battlepass is bad, that locked previous free content behind a paywall… I dont like that at all. But if it takes a few hours playing mystery heroes which I play daily anyway to unlock a new hero and access to comp… whatever.

Theoretically. The majority of the profits is going towards executive bonuses and shareholder dividends. They don’t really have to change their budget for content production. The only way this happens is if they increase the size of the development team which isn’t likely as it will impede profits.

Still my initial one time investment of $10 since the BP pays itself :sunglasses:

Still spouting your delusions I see. Debunked your entire “All F2P games suck” argument before yet you left me on read and now you try, very unsuccessfully so, to convince other people that your terrible take is true.

Well the point is for them to make more money

YES EXACTLY. This is why it is predatory. The skins I have unlocked in OW1 woukd probably be worth over 3k if they were $10 each. The good times of being able to enjoy cosmetics are over…

I know it’s hard to accept change but not only did that game have virtually no content compared to today’s multiplayer scene but it relied very heavily on a solo campaign that was huge at the time but that fps players are generally uninterested in today. Its one of my all time favourite games but there’s no way that game succeeds today and that’s okay, tastes change, it’s normal.

That model has 0 chance of succeeding in today’s multiplayer shooter market. People want to play many different games, they don’t really want to hard commit into one. The gamers that drive the fps market today want flexibility, access and quickly developed, consistent content that is months if not weeks apart, not years.

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You guys have overused the term predatory so much that it’s lost all meaning

So predatory that you have to spend 10$ to get a pass full of different skins which will pay for itself if you manage to complete is fully. Truly miserable. Let’s forget about OW1 at launch where the only way to get lootboxes was lvling up or buying them with real money, and lvling up very quickly becomes sluggish.

Thats strange cause the second they switch halo to a F2P model it started hurting bad, the multiplayer part is crap missing so many features and no split screen, and the campaign is a giant grind fest (i tried it all cause on of my friends bought and regrets it) So the one time purchase ovp game fans are alive and strong but modt dont play F2P games cause they are junk

You’re wrong OP…

It costs you much MUCH more than standard game (for the same amount of stuff)

More like blizzard has used every predatory monetization known to mankind except maybe NFTs.

Yes. Why? Because the P2P games are mostly one and done games. There is no difference between a guy who puts 10k hours in one F2P game and buys things for 1k or more or a guy who has 10k hours in multiple P2P and pays 1k for those games.

The question is always: is it worth it? I, for one, played OW1 over years with no real other game besides some times beside it. I would bought a ton of stuff if I did not get it for free.

There are always people who stay with one game and game hopper that play each game a few months and go on.

Each to their own. I will enjoy OW2 to the fullest and buy stuff if I want to. There are other games that I spend over 1k on over the cause of the years and I dont regret it. It was worth my time and I got a ton of playtime out of them. More playtime than any game hopper would get out of games I would think.

In short: yes there are games that I would pay over 1k over the cause of years to have fun in them and I dont regrett it.

Your title is misleading, a F2P doesn’t cost you more on average than a P2P game.

People do spend more on F2P games on average but that doesn’t mean you have to to play.

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No one force you to buy , lamo

people spend 10$ on a coffee without giving it much of a second thought!
there are people behind the scenes have been working multiple hours to make the skin for you