A Cowboy by any other name, the McCree Debate

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time will come when you will get reported for being toxic or something.

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If Blizzard had a singular intelligent person in their higher ups they could have easily killed two birds with one stone here. It’s been hinted that McCree’s name is not his actual birth name, therefore they should have made a little lore event revealing his actual name, but WITHOUT making a public statement about the real dev. The people who wanted it changed and the devs who are reminded of him (Despite the names being very common, sorry for all you Jesse or McCree folk out there.) and they also don’t bring attention to the person in the process. Let’s be real here, I’d wager maybe 5% of player knew he was named after a dev, and that’s a generous estimate.

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They just wanted us to praise them but it backfired. they have this thing for worship.

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I’d say more people thought he was inspired by the old Light Gun Games than a real person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrDcWrGvTt8

Hell, they could have done event where he finally gets a code name. That would have been fine.

Exactly, they made the announcement public as part of a PR campaign. It’s that simple, why else make such a big thing about it. It’s a common marketing strategy, to give the appearance of being more than a faceless corp.

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So soon after word of them shredding evidence too? Hrmm I do wonder if that’s just all a wacky woohoo coincidence?

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could be tax evasion bills :grin:

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The name change was in the works for longer before the public statement was let out(pro casters were referring to him as “cowboy” weeks in advance). Stop with your conspiracy theories.

Nobody is going to see Blizzard shredding documents then see the OW team announcing this and think “omg wow Blizzard must now be in the clear!”

Calling something “virtue signaling” as a way to discredit actual decent change has no substance. You’re not making an actual point when you say that. It’s more of a dog whistle than anything.

In any case, as clearly stated many times, this change isn’t for the players, it’s for the people working on the game. If that bothers you, you’re free to stop playing. Work environment and company morale matters.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ky0_5gB0U

With that, I’m going to bed!
It’s been an enjoyable discussion.

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That’s basically all companies these days. Very few people are dumb enough to look at it at face value anymore.

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it´s only 17:34 where i am :open_mouth:

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Supposedly, the pro-casters thing was a personal issue after the news about the real life person came to light.
They didn’t wish to glorify or offend anyone at the time and were being careful.

It’s also been stated there is no proof it’s for the developers.
The statement they used is similar in composure to any other time Blizzard, Activsion, or any other large dev/publisher had been caught with their pants down… almost to the point it’s fill in the blanks.

This portion is coming from a cynical point of view of all these corporations.
Hell, Activision-Blizzard has already called in the Union-Busters a month ago, so there are more underlying issues and morale problems then we know off, just the stuff that has boiled to the surface.
https://kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-hires-union-busting-firm-as-workers-1847386654

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Great, who cares! Like I said, nobody is going to have their view dramatically by this. The optics of the decision matter far less than the actual decision itself anyways.

This was a good change to help the people working there move on. As I said before, work culture matters. The OW team, who isn’t really in any of the accusations is trying to move past this.

Maybe they were pressured by blizzard to push this out after they were caught shredding documents. Again, it really doesn’t matter for the reasons stated above

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Blizzard can wipe people’s memories now? I did not know that changing a characters name completely removes all history associated with them or the actions that were caused by the individual that the character was associated with.

He’ll still always be McCree.

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Why would this change require wiping people’s memories? They’re not trying to erase this, erasing is far different from moving past it.

If you still want to call him McCree, go for it! The people at blizzard who want to move past it won’t.

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Good, then the name stays and they can use an internal name for their characters like most companies do.

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They’ll still have to reference him as McCree frequently, even if they use an internal name.

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The ppl only make big deal out of it only because he is meta now and they think he will be their new main forever or something.

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So how exactly would changing the name help when the devs know the 6 year old + character was called McCree?

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They should have made a story arc where McCree becomes the villain by betraying his friends. Removing him from the roster and adding him as a boss you kill at the end of an archives mission.

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Because they won’t have to reference him as that moving forward, they’ll instead reference him as whatever new name he has?

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