A challenge for Mercy mains

[Cerburus437-1424]

@GreyFalcon-11737

Come up with a wide portfolio of ideas that devs could be intrigued and persuaded for Mercy changes.

Challenge. Accepted.

@siennarena-1877

I think she should have a LOS Burst Heal that immediately heals anyone in her sight to 100% HP. Almost like a Zen ult but without having to physically move towards teammates. Would be in line with her “Heroes never die!” quote, and would probably pacify the people angry about resurrection. There’s a reason why it’s not instant despite the long cool-down. This would be a neat ult in my opinion, works similar to her original but exchanges the act of resurrection with instead preventing death by that burst of instant health. Super useful, especially to tanks.

Edit: ClaritySoul added the idea of a cleanse and avoiding all CC for a short period of time. Or instead of a 100% health boost, 200% for a short period of time. I guess similar to how Lucio’s ult “increases” HP by adding shields.

@Raptoricoooo-1721

Although I’m kind of glad that Mercy’s latest nerf isn’t too bad (I’m still rooting for team mass Rez tho) and that she’s an “okay” hero for now, her ult just seems so boring and unimpactful. Literally just an ability with a very long cooldown.

imho it would be so much better if they increased her healing from 60/HPS main beam to 80-90 HPS so that her ult would have a little bit more “umph” in it. It could help her sustain team fights better and would be stronger and more intimidating.

And a single insta Rez would be good too

@Rosalhymn-2641

I want to EARN rez,not get it for free each 30 seconds

@VerySrsCat-2894

I totally agree on earning the ult instead of getting it each 30 seconds. I had an idea where she has her old ult back, but each teammate would take 0.5 seconds to rez, and you would need to hold your ult button down, and, when it’s released, it rezzes the amount shown (f.e. 0.5 seconds for a solo rez, 2.5 seconds for 5-man rez). And make it line-of-sight rez too so it wouldn’t encourage the “hide and rez” tactic again.

@BubbleWrap-11884

• Shorten Valkyrie, but heighten its effects in some way
• Replace Resurrect as an ability with something that Mercy can use to aid her team
• Replace Valkyrie with something that can have a big impact, similar to how other Support Ultimates function
• Consider a hybrid Ultimate, or some other way to combine Valkyrie and Resurrect in such a way that you can choose between one or the other (Valkyrie should still be looked at in this case imo)
• Rework the ability of Resurrect so that it feels better to use and can be used to assist a team mid fight

@Kilo-11363

I think they should remove the chain healing and double her healing/damage boost with the increased mobility.

This will make it so you have to fly around (increasing the skill cap) and it also feels more powerful because of the 120 hps and 60% damage boost.

It also makes it less annoying to play against since the entire team isn’t being pocketed by mercy.

I think the duration should be reduced to 10 seconds though.

@QuizzyBunny-2512

The jack of all trades but master of none. I would rather have a true impact than one that can barely be seen even by the Mercy herself. I have already suggested that one way to make Mercy feel better is to allow her to toggle between the branching beams and a single-target beam that gives her improved healing (120-200 hp/s), because currently the ult isn’t fun and she needs to be able to deal with focus fire. Even Moira without her ult can burst heal her team better than Mercy can in Valkyrie.

@SCARR-12977

To me, her ult would be considerably better if it was a solid 95 hps, but on one target and 40% damage boost to one target. Multi healing isn’t Mercy’s area of expertise, she shouldn’t bleed into other supports areas in terms of ults.
(Nano boost should give the speed bonus and last a little longer, and ana should have a faster reload but hey)
Also insta rez cuz it’s an ult

ok I got tired so imma just quote your rework my rework titaniums reworks and get this over with

@Cerburus437-1424

Mercy

• Caduceus Staff:
  • Healing per second increased by 20%
  • Damage Boost now affects Self-Destruct

Comments: I felt like both of these changes were unnecessary and with the other changes in this thread wouldn’t make her too strong a hero in comparison to other supports.

• Resurrect
  • Removed

Comments: In any form I felt this ability was too controversial as an ability it creates too many restrictions in her kit to balance it out, while as an ultimate it causes too much backlash from the community regardless of its balance.

• Biotic Barrier (New Ability)
  • Mercy’s beam target gains 33% damage resistance.
    • Toggle Ability (Like defense matrix)
    • 4-second maximum duration
    • Fully recharges over 8 seconds
    • Toggle Begins by pressing the button and then pressing it again ends it.

Comments: Originally I played with this idea in my head a lot before deciding on this version I thought of giving it 50% in exchange for 1/3rd of her healing while active and a few other ideas before deciding on this one, due to it being easiest to balance of my ideas

• Valkyrie
  • Duration reduced to 8 seconds
  • Regen can be interrupted
  • Caduceus Staff
    • Chain Beams removed
    • Healing Beam increased to 200 healing per second during Valkyrie
    • Damage Boost beam now gives a 15% attack speed boost as well.
  • Biotic Barrier
    • Creates an aura (10 meters) around the beam target granting 33% damage reduction
  • Ult charge cost increased from 1950 to 2325

Comments: One complaint you’ll see all over about Valkyrie is that it feels like an unimpactful spectator mode, With this Valkyrie I set out to change that by increasing its hps a little over 3 fold removing the chain beams and cutting the duration nearly in half, this serves 2 purposes to give it impact with 200 hps and reduce its feeling of spectator mode by making the player juggle their beams to use Valkyrie to the best of their abilities, and the ult charge was increased to compensate for her higher ult charge gain and now stronger ultimate.

• Achievement Changes
  • Group Health Plan: Reduce 200 damage on 5 different teammates without dying
  • Huge Res: Bring Teammates from critical to full 10 times without dying

Comments: I don’t really have a comment, I changed the achievements to what I feel would be good for her new abilities, you got a better idea for the achievements feel free to give them.

@GreyFalcon-11737

Mercy

Caduceus Staff: Resurrection

• By healing a soul of a dead teammate for 3 seconds, that teammate is resurrected.

Saw a couple variations on this idea. This one would be a flat amount of time to rez, as opposed to dependant on the hp of the target.

Longer cast time than current, but you can heal a teammate at a distance from cover. And there’s no movement speed penalty.

Now: 1.75sec cast, 5m range, 75% slow
This: 3.00sec cast, 15m range, no slow

@GreyFalcon-11737

Let’s say we restrict single rez to Valk only, with no changes except this one:

Give Mercy a 200HP Lucio-Ult-type overshield while casting. If the overshield is broken, the cast fails.

But obviously Mercy would be unlikely to die from it.

Put the Rez on Q during Valk
And put something different on E, like a heal boost.

@GreyFalcon-11737

What if she had a heal boost, on a resource meter.

Similar to defense matrix.

Better yet, let’s add that this boost also does damage boost, and have this replace her right click.

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Alternatively, make it be a toggle by default and put it on the R button.

@GreyFalcon-11737

I got that spear idea I’ve been tossing around.

I was thinking originally to have the spear be a Q ability during Valk, but it occurred to me they could make it be an E ability instead.

Would allow Mercy players to have some autonomy to go use her Blaster more regularly.

I.e.
E ability = Throw Staff
Q ability = Valk
Q during Valk = Single Rez

Haven’t quite figured out how the autopilot heals would work if it’s not Valkyrie chain heals.

Would it just be 1 beam that heals whoever is closest? Or maybe a chain beam that splits the healing potency depending on how many teammates are nearby.

Anybody got any ideas how the autopilot heal mechanic would work?

@GreyFalcon-11737

Normal Valkyrie is kinda boring.

Battle Angel Valkyrie is really fun, but you have to stop healing. And you’ll probably get reported if you stop healing.

So here’s an idea:

Caduseus Spear:

• Pressing Q in Valkyrie morphs the staff into a glowing spear of fiery Holy Light.
• Pressing Left click throws this spear. It deals 100 damage to any enemy within it’s path, and pierces through enemies.
• Spear falls straight down when it comes in contact with Shields/DM/Deflect.
• The staff then sets itself hovering vertically, with chain heals. Healing all teammates besides Mercy within range. (I.e. Deployable healing totem).
• Mercy can also target this spear with Guardian Angel.
• And reclaim the spear as a staff when next to it by pressing Q again. Reclaiming the staff causes a 3 second cooldown before the staff can be thrown again.
• Losing vision of the staff for 3 seconds causes the staff to disappear and rematerialize in Mercy’s equipment.
• The spear cannot take damage, but disappears instantly if Mercy is killed.

By deploying the spear near teammates it allows Mercy to use her pistol to attack enemies. (Aka Really Fun ).

It also allows for a really aggressive playstyle if you want to hit an enemy with the spear, then GA in towards the spear, for the killing blows with the pistol.

Gives more options during Valkyrie, some burst impact, and legitimizes Battle Angel mode.

Also it could be stylized to look really awesome.

@Titanium-1686

Valkyrie:

• Removed.

Resurrect:

• Removed as a basic ability and placed as Mercy’s ultimate ability.
• 15 meter range.
• Line of sight requirement. Does not apply to destructibles, payloads, or non-fundamental map obstacles that are too small to actually obscure a player. In other words, none of that BS where a player can move behind a lamp post to evade a nuclear explosion.
• 1 second cast time. Basic movement is unrestricted while casting, but all attacks and abilities are disabled for Mercy during this time.
• If Mercy is stunned or killed while casting, Resurrect does not activate and Mercy loses all ultimate charge.
• All living allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends receive a burst heal of 150 HP. Mercy also receives this burst heal.
• All dead allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends are revived at full health and receive 2.25 seconds of invulnerability (same as current Resurrect and Resurrect pre-rework).
• Mercy does not receive invulnerability upon Resurrect’s activation.
• Resurrect does not require dead allies to be activated.
• 1625 ultimate charge requirement (the same as Mercy 1.x’s Resurrect).

Most importantly, this takes Resurrect off one of Mercy’s basic abilities and places it into a position that matches its ultimate-like behavior. On top of this, various trade-offs were made to the ability to allow for the healing burst and the introduction of a second basic ability.

The healing burst, post-rez vulnerability, cast time, and LoS requirements all incentivise using Resurrect to revive 0-3 players rather than 4+ players. Attempting to use it on four or more players runs a greater risk a failed resurrect attempt due to the cast time. If Mercy manages to use Resurrect, there is a greater chance that she missed some allies due to the LoS requirement. If those two drawbacks do not drag her team down enough, there is also the fact that Mercy is vulnerable post-rez while her teammates are still reviving.

The healing burst and fire-at-will mechanics on Resurrect make the ability more flexible and open up some unique uses for it. For example, Mercy could use Resurrect to grant her team a burst of healing in the middle of the teamfight to keep their momentum going rather than waiting for an ally to rejoin the fight after being killed and revived.

New Basic Ability - Pacify:

• After a .5 second wind-up, Mercy launches a single hitscan attack from her left hand.
• The projectile’s hitbox size resembles that of Symmetra’s secondary fire.
• The projectile deals no damage upon impact with an enemy. Instead, it applies a debuff that reduces the base damage dealt by the target by 33%. 100 damage is reduced to 67 damage before other damage amplifiers/reductions are factored in.
• This debuff lasts for 4 seconds.
• The projectile does not persist once it hits an enemy. It is only able to affect one enemy for each use.
• The projectile is blocked by barriers, Defense Matrix, and Particle Barriers. It can be deflected by Genji’s Deflect ability.
• 10 second cooldown. The cooldown begins after the ability is cast.
• There is a .25 second wind-down time after Pacify is launched.
• During the wind-up and wind-down times, Mercy is not able to use her staff, her pistol, or Resurrect. She may use Guardian Angel, however.
• Does not affect non-player entities and constructs (turrets, Rip-Tire, Supercharger, etc).

This ability functions similarly to Ana’s Sleep Dart in its cast, but the projectiles and effects are very different. Because Mercy is supposed to have a low skill floor, the hitscan weapon type and large hitbox make the ability mechanically forgiving. As a result, Pacify’s 33% damage decrease for 4 seconds is less effective than Sleep Dart’s disable for up to 5.5 seconds.

That said, Pacify still has a lot of playmaking potential when mastered. For example, when used on a target that has been Nano-Boosted or Supercharged, the damage increase that Nano-Boost/Supercharger has on that target is completely negated for the next 4 seconds (100 DPS -%33 = 67 DPS + 50% = 100 DPS).

Pacify also drops Widowmaker, Hanzo, and Pharah’s weapon damage below the 2-shot (body shot) range for 200 HP heroes. If used at the right time, it can potentially save an ally’s life.

Caduceus Staff:

• Healing beam’s rate of healing remains at 60 health/second.

Angelic Descent:

• For the first one second of Angelic Descent’s use while airborne, Mercy does not lose altitude. After one second of this, Angelic Descent decays into the featherfall currently provided by Angelic Descent.
• This effect can only be used once while in the air. If it has been expended, Mercy must first make contact with the ground before using it again.

Mercy’s midfight mobility potential will not be increased by much through this change, but it does allow Mercy to reach more positions prior to engagements without help from allies. Moving from ledge to ledge is made easier by these changes.

@Titanium-1686

Build 1:
Resurrect: Removed as a usable ability unless Valkyrie is active. One again sets Guardian Angel’s cooldown to 0 upon use. Does not have a cast time.

Resurrect needs to be locked behind an ultimate if it is not an ultimate by itself. It is impossible to balance Resurrect and simultaneously make it feel good to use if it is locked behind a basic cooldown.

Double Jump: By pressing the jump key twice in rapid succession, the player gains extra lift, the animation showing Mercy’s wings activating to give her an altitude boost. This can be used to establish LoS to targets on high ground, or get a better view of allies who are currently obscured by closer allies. It cannot be used more than once since touching the ground.

This is mainly out of preference, but Mercy would feel better if she wasn’t 100% dependant on allies to not be a sitting duck.

Valkyrie 2.0:

• Duration reduced to 8 seconds.
• Free flight removed.
• Current beam setup removed.
• Regeneration passive during Valkyrie removed.
• GA range during Valkyrie reduced from 50 meters to 35 meters (30 is normal GA range).
• Resurrect becomes available when Valkyrie is activated. Upon using it, it has a 3 second cooldown, and will continue to run on 3 second cooldowns for the rest of the ultimate.
• Once the ultimate ends, if Resurrect is not on cooldown, the player has 6 seconds to use it before it is no longer usable. If it is on cooldown, the ability completes its cooldown and then has 5 seconds to be used before becoming unavailable.
• New passive while Valkyrie is active- Angelic Presence: All allies within 8 meters of Mercy including herself receive an uninterrupted 10 health per second.
• Mercy no longer points her staff at her allies and engages a healing stream, she now swings her staff in an upward arc at a rate of once per second whilst using one of her streams (damage boost or healing). Each swing causes an eight-meter cone AoE effect of the current beam, but amplified because this is an ultimate.
• If Mercy’s healing stream is activated when she swings, all allies within the AoE receive a burst 100 HP. If her damage stream is activated when she swings, all allies within the AoE receive a 60% increase in damage for 1 second.
• Pistol damage during Valkyrie increased from 20 to 25.
• Mercy’s base movement speed and Angelic Descent horizontal speed increased by 0.6 to 6.1 (5.5 is the base movement speed for all heroes except Genji and Tracer, 7.1 is Lucio’s speed aura).

This forces Mercy to be in the fight, as Mercy has neither the free flight, nor a 30 meter beam range. Being this close to the fight will jeopardize the player, yet it still open lots of opportunities for the player to feel heroic. The reduced duration and increased stats makes Valkyrie more potent but for a shorter duration and less annoying to play against, as Mercy is now directly in the fight rather than 30 meters away. Because Mercy is now forced to be in the fight, commitment is required to use Valkyrie, and the player must use it carefully because of the reduced range and duration. Target prioritization will need to be considered in the event that not all players can be healed in a single arc of Mercy’s staff.

Variant 1:
Rather than a Double Jump ability, 3 seconds of free flight at base movement speed are granted to the player upon hitting the jump key twice in rapid succession. This ability has a 7 second cooldown, which begins once its 3 second duration has ended. This results in a maximum uptime of 30%. Can be used in Valkyrie.

This is mainly to appease the players who enjoyed the free flight granted by Valkyrie and want to keep it to some degree. Note that none of the other bonuses from the current version of Valkyrie (chain beams, range increase, etc.) apply to this ability.

Variant 2:
Free flight is added to Valkyrie.

This variant was created for the same reason Variant 1 was created; to appease the players who enjoyed free flight. I, personally, would not prefer this variant, but it would still be miles better than Mercy’s current iteration.

Build 2:
Valkyrie:

• Duration reduced to 10 seconds.
• All outputs (healing, damage amplification, pistol damage) increased by 50%, Meaning: Healing -> 90 HPS, damage boost -> 45% increase, pistol -> 30 damage.
• Primary beam range reduced from 30 meters to 20 meters.

This makes Valkyrie more potent with a shorter duration, making it feel more impactful. The reduced beam range is to prevent players from spending the entire fight in the skybox, and makes it feel a little more fair to play against.

Resurrect:

• Players can now reduce the cooldown time for Resurrect by healing/dealing damage/amplifying damage.
• Cooldown is doubled or tripled.
• Movement penalty upon activation reduced from 75% to 50%.
• Mercy can now heal, damage boost, and shoot while reviving.

If this change is executed properly, this could overall be a cooldown nerf to Resurrect without feeling like it. The cast time was modified in order to make Mercy feel less helpless upon using Resurrect.

Variant 1:
Duration of Valkyrie reduced to 8 seconds, outputs increased by 60%: 96 HPS, 48% amplification, 32 pistol damage.

This is basically the same as the above version but even shorter and more potent.

Variant 2:
Valkyrie has a 10 second duration, primary beam target receives 120 HPS/60% damage increase, secondary beams apply 80 HPS/40% damage increase.

The goal for this was to create a need to prioritize targets. To do this, the strength of the primary beam was increased while the strength of the secondary beams were decreased.

Variant 3:
Valkyrie has an 8 second duration, primary beam target receives 128 HPS/64% damage increase, secondary beams apply 85 HPS/43% damage increase. Mercy’s blaster deals 32 damage.

Variants 1 and 2 mixed together.

Build 3:

• Mercy reverted to 1.x.

Guardian Angel:

• GA modifications from Mercy 2.x applied.

Resurrect:

• Range reduced to from 15 meters to 10 meters.
• Line of sight requirement added.

Valkyrie:

• Added as an E ability.
• 4 second duration, 12 second cooldown. Cooldown begins once the ability’s duration has been exhausted, allowing for a 25% uptime at the very most.
• Primary beam range only extends to 20 meters, down from 30.
• Movement speed reduced from 9 meters/second to 6.5 meters/second.
• Guardian Angel range is not extended when Valkyrie is active.
• Passive self-regeneration is no longer constant.

A revert is the most definite fix. The line of sight requirement and range decrease were applied to Resurrect for two reasons; one, to compensate for Valkyrie becoming an E ability, and two, to incentivise tempo-resurrections without forcing them. Note that the charge requirement was not increased for the latter of those two reasons.

Variant 1:
Resurrect has a 15 meter range and no line of sight requirement, but can Resurrect a maximum of 3 players at once. If more than 3 players are within range, the 3 closest players to Mercy are revived.

Just an idea. There really isn’t any justification for this idea, and there doesn’t really need to be.

Variant 2:
Valkyrie no longer grants free flight, GA range is once again extended, beam range is again set to 30 meters. A double jump ability is added to Mercy’s kit.

This allows Valkyrie to be used to heal allies that are otherwise unreachable, but does not make Mercy herself unreachable. The double-jump was added to provide Mercy with a little independant mobility.

Variant 3:
Valkyrie’s primary beam applies 80 HPS/40% damage increase, secondary beams apply 53 HPS/27% damage increase.

Valkyrie but with the added requirement of healing prioritization.

Variant 4:
Any combination of Variants 1, 2, and 3.

Have fun.

Build 4:
A build I stole from ReinStein (with permission, so i didn’t actually steal it) and then modified:

Valkyrie:

• Removed.

Resurrect:

• Is once again Mercy’s ultimate.
• Now uses a charge/stack-based system, stores a maximum of 3 stacks. 1320 ultimate charge is required to gain a single stack of Resurrect.
• Cast time removed.
• Resets GA cooldown upon use.
• Otherwise functions like Resurrect does currently.

This fixes the issue that Resurrect is not earned and adds variation to its availability. I didn’t just pull 1320 charge out of my butt; I took the amount of ultimate charge the average competitive Mercy player was earning every game by healing/damaging/amplifying (11562.4), added the passive ultimate gain from existing for 10 minutes (3000 charge) to total 14562.4, and decided I wanted the average Mercy to earn 11 Resurrect charges/game. 14562.4/11 ~ 1320 (rounding to the nearest ten). For reference, Resurrect from Mercy 1.x required 1625 ultimate charge.

New E ability: Alter Stream

• Pressing E activates Mercy’s chain beams, which function as they currently do in Valkyrie but without the primary beam range increase. Pressing E again returns the beams to normal.
• The strength of Mercy’s beams is decreased, reducing her damage boost amplification to only 10% and her healing to only 20 HPS.
• This ability has no cooldown.

This adds more depth to Mercy’s allied prioritization, allowing her to choose between affecting one ally with a potent beam or multiple with weaker beams.

Changes to damage boost in relation to ultimate charge:

• Ultimate charge is no longer generated based on how much damage a target amplified by Mercy is dealing, but by how much damage is amplified.
• For every 2 damage amplified, Mercy gains 5 ultimate charge points.

There’s a reason for this change. If you are not interested in watching me crunch numbers, I suggest you skip over this part. If you enjoy math like I occasionally do, feel free to stick around.

Currently, the amount of charge Mercy gains from amplifying teammates is determined by the total amount of damage the ally in question is dealing to enemies. Note that this is not the base damage, but the amount of damage the ally is dealing total, after Mercy’s 30% damage increase is factored in. This is then fed through a 2/3 conversion ratio before giving us the final amount of ultimate charge gained through damage amplification. In other words…

If [player currently being amplified by Mercy] deals 200 base damage to [enemy], Mercy’s 30% amplification increases that damage by 60, resulting in a total of 260 damage dealt. This number is then multiplied by 2 and divided by 3 (because reasons, the developers slapped a random conversion ratio on top of this), resulting in a grand total of 173.3333… ultimate charge gained from this endeavor. 60 damage amplified resulted in 173.3333… charge points.

Why the developers made this conversion so unnecessarily complicated is beyond me, but I digress. The reason this is no longer an effective system is because of the proposed E. Why? Let’s compare Mercy’s normal damage boost to the suggested chain boost:

For Mercy’s normal boost, she gains 173.3 charge for 60 damage.

For Mercy’s group boost, let’s assume she is increasing the damage output of three allies, all of whom are dealing 200 damage. With Mercy’s 10% increase, she is increasing the damage of each ally by 20, for a total of 60 damage amplified. However, the targets she is boosting are dealing a total of 660 damage. If we slap this into the same conversions currently in place for Mercy’s damage stream, we get 440 ultimate charge gained; here lies the issue.

Normal: 60 damage amplified = 173.3 charge.
Chained to three allies: 60 damage amplified = 440 charge.

The amount of charge gained is not consistent with the amount of impact Mercy is creating; this is why I very strongly suggest that Mercy’s charge gain from damage boost is determined by how much damage is amplified rather than how much damage the affected allies are dealing.

If we want the current charge rate for Mercy’s beam to remain unchanged while solving the issue, we simply divide the amount of charge gained from the normal scenario by the amount of damage amplified in that same scenario:

173.33…/60 = 2.88…

So, for every 1 damage amplified, Mercy receives 2.88… ult charge. Because Mercy has the potential to gain ult at a faster rate by amplifying/healing more than three targets, however, I figured it would be better for Mercy to gain 2.5 charge/1 damage amplified to counterbalance. Hence the 5 charge for every 2 damage amplified.

Variant 1:
Resurrect stores up to five stacks. The range of Resurrect is increased to 15 meters and all allies within the radius (and within LoS) are Resurrected upon a single use of Resurrect. Mercy receives one second of invulnerability upon using Resurrect, and she can only use Resurrect once every ten seconds. If she uses her ultimate, it is put on a ten second cooldown.

This makes Resurrect feel more epic to use, but still actively incentivizes tempo-resurrections rather than mass-resurrections because of the line-of-sight requirement and limited invulnerability. The cooldown upon using Resurrect is inflicted for two reasons; One, to prevent Mercy players from abusing the invulnerability by chaining Resurrections, and two, to make the Mercy player think carefully about how they use Resurrect. Ten seconds is the same time it takes a player to respawn after death, so a Mercy must consider how they use Resurrect if multiple allies are down at once and some are not reachable.

[anon71386812]

I wasn’t talking to you.

[Xolarix-2276]

Mercy: Restoration Beam

I’m not even going to bore you with an in-depth rant. There have been enough of those. But, I, like many others who voice their discontent: do not enjoy this iteration of Mercy in the slightest. However, as a revert is very unlikely, I’ve begun thinking of a way to streamline Mercy by keeping Valkyrie entirely intact. And by keeping the gameplay philosophy behind the rework, ALSO intact. I will propose a “soft rework”. I will NOT ask for mass-rez to return. I will, however, ask for a way to …

All I have to offer in terms of different ideas.

I believe I have a couple of ideas in those megathreads of oblivion too.
I still prefer mass-rez to return, with simple tweaks. Like:

• Can’t rez people that are not in direct LOS
• Can’t rez people while GA is in use or on cooldown
• Mass-rez no longer grants invincibility frames to Mercy, but does heal her up to full.
• Invincibility frames removed entirely after rez. Instead allies receive 200 temp shields.

[KinkyClam-1212]

Can you explain why?

Mass resurrect on its own packed a big punch even when mercy was killable before her allies could move. When this change occurred hide’n’res became the most popular strategy. While nerfing it/tweaking it would’ve fixed the problem blizzard just went for a rework nobody wanted.

Can you name them?

Minefield, Molten Nut (core), D’Va nuke, Deadeye, DeathBlossom, Barrage, Grav Combos, Earthshatter comboes, Snipers. All these and more should either get an easy setup for multikill after res is pulled off OR can just kill the mercy before/while she resurrects.
That way it will EITHER leave the team 5v6 without their main healer, making them easy kill (ult charges at the very least) OR wipe the enemy team once more, taking away more of their precious time for capturing a point/pushing a payload.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

You mean they have not for more than a year?

Oh wait, they just never answered to any of the feedback they pigeonholed into the mercy megathread

It’s unfortunate the megathreads happened. But I do think the devs want to make sure that Mercy is fun and worthwhile.

And just because they aren’t communicating with forum users, they got hundreds of thousands of Mercy players to make happy.

Leverage that knowledge and use the devs desire to help the Mercy playerbase as whole.

[NavySA-1845]

Here some of my ideas

Let's Heal Our Beloved Angel (Mercy rework concept place)

I love Mercy with like 400 hours on her in high diamond (been in masters), but I can’t play her anymore, In my opinion it’s just not worth it when you could do so much more, with someone else. Don’t get me wrong I want all healers and heroes playable and balanced, but Mercy just isn’t there yet. So many people in the community agree that Mercy is falling behind, and I wanted to share my ideas on how to rework this glorious healer to make a healthier hero. THE VALKYRIE Details: Role: …

[anon71386812]

You don’t provide an in depth explanation, you’re just saying stuff which have been said over and over with much meaning.
As for the counters you mentioned, only 2 of them are new. Since mass rez was countered so much by already existing ults/combos, why did they remove it?

[GreyFalcon-11737]

You don’t provide an in depth explanation, you’re just saying stuff which have been said over and over with much meaning.
As for the counters you mentioned, only 2 of them are new. Since mass rez was countered so much by already existing ults/combos, why did they remove it?

Instead of figuring out why devs don’t like it, maybe figure out what the devs might like instead?

[anon71386812]

There has been a ton of feedback since the beginning of time, they better get to reading instead of going back to an alpha ult which didn’t make the cut.

Although my personal opinion is to straight up copy the Medic.

[Mrat13-2812]

Just Mercy mains? What if you don’t play Mercy but have a genuinely good idea. You’d be missing out.

Anyway, I’ll leave my minor changes here if anyone is interested:

1. Make damage boost and heals one beam. Means more utility.
2. Change Valk from chain beams to aura. Allows Mercy to shoot and support at the same time during Valk (battle Mercy fun time).
3. With damage boost no longer taking up an ability slot, add a new ability. Cleanse has been mentioned many times, but I also had an idea for some kind of overheal. Up for debate.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

There has been a ton of feedback since the beginning of time, they better get to reading instead of going back to an alpha ult which didn’t make the cut.

Although my personal opinion is to straight up copy the Medic.

Way I see it, aside from MultiRez posts, Mercy is one of the least discussed heroes on the forums

If the artists didn’t want something to be grey, but you show them 500 shades of grey, and they still don’t like it.

Maybe it’s time to show them something in blue or green?

[anon71386812]

They don’t seem to want to get rid of rez and/or valk so we’re out of options.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

They don’t seem to want to get rid of rez and/or valk so we’re out of options.

Devs didn’t want to increase Roadhog’s damage, or reduce his Ult charge feeding.
But new Roadhog is going to be fine.

[Chess-11652]

maybe figure out what the devs might like instead?

We don’t know which staff members are currently calling the shots on Mercy so it’s hard to dig up what they’d like.

Plus, the various public comments they’ve made aren’t terribly conclusive.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

maybe figure out what the devs might like instead?

We don’t know which staff members are currently calling the shots on Mercy so it’s hard to dig up what they’d like.

Plus, the various public comments they’ve made aren’t terribly conclusive.

That’s why it’s really important to try a bunch of design approaches, and usually avoid what you think they don’t like.

It’s not an exact science, but I seem to be decent at guessing.

[Chess-11652]

I suspect it’s more a case of you and them thinking the same way at times rather than a case of them reading your feedback (Depending on what you think of the staff that is either a great thing or a terrible thing:P).

As prolific as you are the view counts of most staff are still low enough the odds of them seeing your posts and doing it on the number of occasions that they have matched up is quite low.

[Davey-12135]

Currently making a Google doc full of Mercy reworks, buffs, nerfs, ability and ultimate ideas, etc. Not sure when I’ll release it though, but it’s got a wide range of ideas.

[Effervescent-11737]

Return to OG valk Return to OG valk with 2(or 3) rezzes in ult plus chain heal, but each rez is 0.5 sec cast and take away E-rez ability
Return to OG valk(2) Return to OG valk with 2 rezzes in ult, NO chain heal or E-rez and only one beam that does 80hps for her target(allows a mercy the need to juggle players)
Return to OG valk(3) OG valk with 2 rezzes, no E-rez and a single strong beam (70hps) that splits to smaller beams(40/50hps)

Mass Rez rework(FYI not my favorited option but we’re brainstorming here) Mass rez back(with mercy’s base of 50hps) but LoS needed and a cast time of 1-1.5 sec(stops a mercy from just diving in dangerously, as the rez will make her vulnerable for a bit)

Ideas for NO REZ
(all these with base healing of 50-60hps-maybe 55hps to meet halfway)
New Valk Same flying capabilities, one strong beam in ult (80hps) that ALSO damage boosts the same target simultaneously. E-ability could be a quick heal button (like half brig’s E-ability

New Valk(2) Single strong beam(70hps) with split beams(with longer range) that do 50hps that damage boost(maybe only 20%) as well

New Valk(3) Single beam with 70/80hps but creates chains to other allies that only reduces their damage taken(That way she still has to juggle but adds more impactful cushioning, as well the only support ult that technically adds damage reduction is brigs simply because its armor so more unique).

*In all these valk changes, adding a “pseudo rez” that PREVENTS death, not reverses, it would be cool

NEW ULT IDEAS

Angel’s Prayer The Mercy places am angelical blessing upon any heroes with X radius of her that boosts healing received by 20%(or reduces damage received by 20-30%) and IF they die within her ulting time (10-15 secs) they auto-restore to 50-75% health [In this, her Base healing is 60hps, no chains.]

The last sacrifice The mercy sacrifices 70% of her health and receives 30% less healing; in turn, all heroes in X radius of her receive 30% increased healing, slight speed buff, and 20% less damage received. In this, Mercy loses her Health regen ability for 10 sec after her ult(I.E, she must be healed up by another healer)

SOME CHANGES TO HER KIT(FOR MORE CURRENT STATE MERCY)
No E-rez, instead, ability that amps up her beam to 70hps for a short time(5-7 secs), Rez only in Ult, with 1 sec cast, 6 sec CD

Building Beam Much like symmetra’s, her beam will increase strength over more time done healing, starting at 50hps to 70hps over a time of X secs(maybe 5?)

HEALTH dependent beam Mercy’s beam will ramp up X% depending upon health lost by teammate. For instance, a full health ally will only receive about 40 hps, but an ally at 10% health can receive up to 70hps.

[Effervescent-11737]

If mercy is to not have rez, she should still maintain the “Heroes never die” trope by SECURELY preventing death.

[micachu-21379]

Might as well throw the ideas that I liked the most in as well then, I suppose.

@micachu-21379

Resurrect has hereby been removed.

First, let’s give her back her 60 healing per second. It was even written in the patch notes back when she first got her healing buffed to 60hp/s, that this was to solidify her role as a primary healer. There is also a lot more damage in the game now than there was back then.

Then let’s think about a new E-abilty for Mercy. There are two suggestions that I read about, that I liked the most:

1. Miracle Worker: Mercy applies a buff to an ally with a set duration, that heals them for 25% of their maximum HP if they take lethal damage during that time.

Notes: In a way, it functions similar to resurrect but it would be a proactive ability that rewards proper timing. They would still be in critical condition and easily die, so Mercy would still have to take care of them afterwards.

2. Damage Reduction: Mercy applies a buff to an ally with a set duration, that reduces the incoming damage they take and spreads it out over 6 seconds.

Notes: Mercy does not have any way to burst heal, so I imagine this could be a way for her to get a similar impact on a single target (since that’s her thing, she is a single target healer). Someone is getting focused and taking a lot of damage that you can’t sustain with your normal beam? Ana or Moira would then use their burst heal abilities to try to save that ally. Mercy could get a similar impact with a damage reduction without ever needing a real burst heal.

You could also go really crazy and make Mircacle Worker as her new ultimate (in an AoE, with a similar cast time as Lucio’s ultimate) and it could work well against burst ultimates and would have to be used proactively instead of after everyone died. “Heroes never die!” would finally make sense again.

And then give her the damage reduction as her E in combination with that. I’m no game designer, so I don’t know how that would play out which is also the reason why I did not try to post detailed numbers. That would have to be tested.

This would be my personal, ideal version of Mercy. But I’m at a point where I would take basically anything that makes her feel more rewarding and not as unintuitive as current Rez and Valk.