A 15 year old dead game is getting DLC and plenty of updates

Implying? So you mean you assumed. Because you should use evidence to form a conclusion, not form a conclusion first, then find evidence to support it afterwards. To ASSUME, is to make an A$$ out of U and ME.

So, OP confirms that the game they’re referencing as “dead” is World of Warcraft. Let’s do a bit of math here…

https://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcrafts-subscriber-base-has-more-than-doubled-since-the-launch-of-classic/

“Activision said during today’s Q4 financial presentation that World of Warcraft’s “active player community” at the end of 2019, defined as players with monthly or longer subscriptions, was more than double what it was at the end of the second quarter”.
Interesting how this refers to a dead-game.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/370010/world-of-warcraft-expansion-pack-sales/#:~:text=As%20of%20August%2014%2C%202018,24%20hours%20from%20their%20releases.

Expansion Release Date Minimum Price Copies Sold* (Millions) Profit* (Millions)
Burning Crusade 2007 $40 2.4 96
Wrath of the Lich King 2008 $40 2.8 112
Cataclysm 2010 $40 3.3 132
Mists of Pandaria 2012 $40 2.7* 108*
Warlords of Draenor 2014 $50 3.3 165
Legion 2016 $50 3.3 165
Battle for Azeroth 2018 $50 3.4 170
*Excluding Mists of Pandaria, whose numbers come from the first week of sales- the Copies Sold and Profit columns all reflect publicly shared data from the FIRST DAY.

Now keep in mind the fact that, barring Mists of Pandaria, these numbers come from the FIRST DAY that every expansion has become available to purchase.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-08-06-taxwatch-activision-blizzard-has-dodged-taxes-on-billions

https://www.fanbyte.com/news/americans-paid-activision-blizzard-tax-cuts-2018/
And then there’s the fact that Activision has been constantly using loopholes to lower taxes for themselves, its safe to say that they’re making a large profit on their own before you even factor in Blizzard.


Their sub numbers don’t really matter when you consider every expansion had to be bought individually for long-time players, whereas everything we get in Overwatch (and in Overwatch 2) is completely free after the initial purchase. The only exception is the PvE campaign in Overwatch 2.
That campaign specifically, is what people are going to pay for, nothing else.

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Weird hill to die on :woozy_face:

OP was clearly talking about WoW, said in comments he was talking about WoW, why are you being so argumentative lmao

Ex:

We should just let people smurf for extra accounts. Want to start over? $19.99 USD.

Bam. Not dead anymore.

Because why risk putting so much money into something new, when the current thing has already made you so much money?

What if the new game doesn’t make anywhere near the cost of production? I mean there’s NO way OW2 is going to make anywhere near the money that OW orginally did

People are unhappy with how the game is currently, everything of actual importance to the PvP aspect is remaining the same, as are the heroes and maps; they’re hurting their current playerbase, for the CHANCE at maybe breaking even?

God, you just reminded me of all the people who said they’d jump ship for Lawbringers. That game was DOA.

yeah…to bad they lost the passion on killing floor 2 , they tried the first years… now it’s just awful. but game play is still really good

2 free reskin weapons for multi-perks

omg don’t tell me it’s another hrg reskin… man it’s getting insulting , if it wasn’t before.

That 15 year old game charges people like 15 bucks a month to play.

they’re making overwatch 2, quit crying

Well I mean, I can see why.

The man taught Arthas, then he defied his order to purged an entire city (seeing how quick the people turned into undead, it was the only reasonable option at the time), came back with a big butt sword to command the undead that he himself has fought for many years. And then stabbed his own father (the king he is loyal to) and then him and his squads.

Like, Uther has had moments of “Dude, what?” from my limited times with him playing the WC3 Campaign (I have the pre reforged version THANK GOD FOR PIRACY!), and I keep asking “what would happen if Uther actually helps Arthas with purging the city?”

Yet again, that would be totally out of character at the time. He was still a righteous hard headed Paladin that tries to separate Justice from Vengeance. And they don’t even sugarcoat it in the new short, they are just masking Vengeance behind Justice tbh.

While less active, that is between 20 and 25 million a month in revenue. That is the kind of death we could retire on.

Smurfs are the worst on console. Because you don’t need to buy new copies, just make new accounts on your console.

WoW retail BFA is in pretty bad state and chances are their garbage development decisions could have very well killed world of warcraft, but the whole wow franchise itself got rejuvenated by the addition of WoW Classic, which brought half a million to million of players back into wow. So there’s that.

Rock Band 4 still gets weekly DLC and can still play the earliest RB DLC from 2007. What’s your point?

The thing is that they have two teams for development of expansions. The A team and B team. The A team did legion and the B team did BFA. Shadowlands is back to the A team.

Legion was awesome. BFA was meh. Shadowlands is likely to be awesome.

Kinda makes sense, considering mop was good, wod was bad, legion was good and bfa was bad again. So shadowlands MIGHT end up good, but what I’ve been hearing about shadowlands doesn’t give me hope at all.

And none of the game matters if the gameplay itself is not going to get any better in shadowlands for my class, mage, which was absolutely dreadful in bfa.

So according to you, “dead” :arrow_right: “makes crazy amounts of money for little expense”.

Good thing you’re the business expert around here! :clinking_glasses:

Personally the things I love are:

  • Crafting legendary’s instead of random drops.
  • Choosing from a selection of things in your weekly mythic+ chest rather then just getting a random thing.
  • Master Loot is coming back so raid guilds can evenly distribute loot among their team again.

I think it will be great.

there is a reason…

sure, OWL makes blizzard $$, but the normal players income is slacking…OW2 will get the common ppl to pay up again.

let OW1 suffer for OW2 potential.

business 101: make profit 1st and make ur player base happy second.

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