🏓 Why are people posting about Hong Kong? [Explanation]

Thinking more logically, I dont think i am really a good good person.
I wouldnt care much about people that actually live in China or North Korea etc this second enough to try to save them.

But for this HK problem I have 2 reasons to support them

  1. They are willing to die for their freedom
  2. It doesnt really need much to sacrifice to boycott Blizzard. Just one click. That is all.

Blizzard has a uniquely high investment in the Chinese market via OWL. They have 4 Chinese teams that bought into the league at a $20-40 million purchase. That’s huge.

Tencent owns 5% of Activision/Blizzard. They own 40% of Epic. Epic said they will not ban like Blizzard did players speaking their beliefs/against the Chinese government. Epic doesn’t have something like OWL on the line though either.

It all makes sense imo. Very easily.

That said, f Blizzard, f the Chinese government, and F this sad political censorship bullls…t.

Basically what I said but the more the detail, the better. :smiling_face: :ok_hand:

Most companies do trade with China. The difference is, Blizzard is imposing their bias’ onto their players to try and maintain this economic relationship with China and appease them. Then they lied about being apolitical but that’s going to take long to explain. Either way,

Yessss.

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Timeline of events

At a Taiwanese Hearthstone Tournament

A player by the name of Blitzchung won a prize at a tournament and earned the right to speak in a victor’s interview.

Blitzchung showed up his interview in a gas mask, that wasn’t the exact same as the ones currently being used in HK but close enough.

A supervisor tells these 2 casters to interview Blitzchung.

They get a hunch he’s about to say something inflammatory but don’t know. They decide the best solution to their problem is to tell him to say what he’s gonna say, while they hide underneath their desk. They duck underneath the desk.

Blizchung says a pro-HK liberation slogan. (Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times). He is cut off after this one sentence.

The casters pop out from under the desk and change the subject.

After the tournament

Blizzard fires the two casters.

They also punish Blitzchung for the maximum amount based on his contract. Which is that the take away all 10k of Blitzchung’s prize money and suspends him for one year.

After the firing

The story goes viral thanks to multiple gaming outlets reporting on it. People express outrage at Blizzard’s actions.

amidst the outrage

Blizzard issues a statement that reads on their Chinese Twitter as such

We are very angered and disappointed at what happened at the event and do not condone it in any way. We also highly object the spreading of personal political beliefs in this manner…We will always respect and defend the pride of our country.

A mass boycott, uninstall, and complaint campaign is also intiated against Blizzard

After all that

Hearthstone caster Brian Kibler quits in protest of Blizzard’s actions

Jayne tweets in support of HK and is forced to delete his tweet by Blizzard

People begin to use Mei as a symbol of protest againt what’s happening in HK

Edit
Gods Unchained offers to give Blitzchung all his prize money

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Because it is Amercia not China, and even with that there were calls to boycott the NFL by some right wing speakers.

Yeah sorry man I can reread what I said and see how it appeared combative but really I’m in agreement with what you said. Sorry for that. For sure the more detail, the more people are able to consider the situation, the better.

Pretty much. Like… Can anyone here, on this forum, reference me to a situation where someone recieved a similar punishment? Be it in OWL, or SC2, or WoW, or whatver? Where else has a significant figure in the Blizzard world recieved such a harsh and severe punishment? It’s not like we’re talking about someone straight up hard hacking here… So is there any comparable situation that’s taken place recently?

That’s the thing that f…ks me up. It’s clear that because it had to do with China that there was this SEVERE punishment thrown down. Had it been XQC raging about Mercy calling their mains retarded or something, no where near such a severe punishment.

Why? Why is it different?

Cuz Blizz be pandering to Chinese government’s sensitivity? That’s the only answer.

And makes sense. They got 4 $20 million+ franchises sitting in China. No way you gonna sabotauge or threaten that.

That’s why it’s so beautiful Hong Kong protesters be rocking Mei posters.

F you, Blizzard.

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Stop wasting your time and go tell politicians to help HK not a gaming company if you care at all about HK.

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Then why have you been crying at blizzard? Stop pretending that you give a sh_t and admit that you want to ruin the lives of people working at Blizzard just so you can fill your selfish immoral ego.

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False, they banned him for breaking his contract and shoving them into a discussion that will only serve to damage them without any benefit whatsoever.

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None of you will do it, you are just going to cry and pretend you have a moral highground when you don’t. The discussion has been about Blizzard and not HK because of that dumb decision that the player made.

sadly…

investors, shareholders, politicians, chinese goverment pressure > Daddy Jeff’ power.

if blizzard owners /shareholders asks for the deletion, they going to do it, after all endangers one of their main sources of money. this isnt about the classic whine of “delete x hero op threads” its about the $$$.

The discussion is about Blizzard because it’s the Overwatch forums, genius

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Ruin lives? They did better then most of the small companies before China money came. I would sacrifice all of blizzards (free earned) bonus if it can save Hong Kong from full invasion

What tf do you mean false? His statement was “Liberate Hong Kong! The revolution of our time!” If you payed minimal attention to the HK protests, you’d know that that’s referring to China’s breaching of HK’s autonomy and HKers genuinely concerned about their human rights since human rights is a distant dream inside mainland China.

They’re not mutually exclusive? He made a political statement that was inherently pro-democracy. Blizzard used a vague rule, that basically allows them to punish anything they don’t like, to ban said player. I never said he didn’t break the contract. I’m saying that Blizzard decided, after taking advantage of an arbitrary rule, that he should be banned, and as I’ve stated before, this is likely to appease China and maintain their economic ties. Again, most upset people are upset because Blizzard views their Chinese market as more important than democracy and human rights. You actually think we’re just complaining to get the guy unbanned? Rofl, wake up for a second please.

On the contrary, said discussion didn’t damage their reputation (besides China for obvious reasons). It was their poor handling of the situation that got their reputation damage. I.e: the weirdly harsh punishment, the pro-China statement released by them, the firing of the bystanders (again, without conclusive evidence) and them deciding that the statement in question is apparently damaging to their rep in the first place. Pro-democracy is only damaging to you if you don’t like the idea of a democracy.

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Yeah but it won’t.

Gaming in general grew since then but do you actually believe that many jobs at Blizzard are not reliant on the revenue they pull from china?

Because they’re a poor company that can barely afford to pay their employees if they lose a percentage of their income. Right.

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Your statement that “Blizzard banned this player for a pro-democracy statement” is factually false. That is not why they banned him and you are pretending it is by moving the goal post.

Based on imagination? I can imagine them working 10 hours a week not testing PTR right know if that counts.

Which invasion are you talking about?