Not going to lie I came to this post and got hope so I queued up for comp and finally I have made it out of bronze 5. Only bronze 4 but we are continuing the grind. Cheers! 
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LETS GOO!! I am so glad this gave you hope.
I was adamant about figuring this out and providing some clarity for those frustrated like myself.
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So theres still an instance here where Blizzard need to redo the competitive
Either still due to bug…
Or the ranking system is garbage for new and returning players and needs to be looked at really carefully as to improve experiences across the board for everyone.
Either way Blizzard messed up
Have you ranked up further since this post @Fho?
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Yes well done Fho, hope this does give hope to everyone getting bashed because they ended up in B5
I want us all to climb and do well. Thanks for doing research. You handled this well!
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I thinks it’s simply flawed by design and with the other issues the game has…not on the immediate list for Blizzard to address.
The thing is - if SR/MMR was transparent then we would have gotten to this specific feedback much sooner and with WAY less frustration from players.
I’ll be grinding another 7 wins tonight to see what happens next!
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I agree. Same finding here.
I think the game works like this:
- Player’s last available SR from OW1 is carried into OW2 but downgraded. (roughly -800 to -1000 SR)
- Player have a hidden SR in OW2 and it changes after each game.
- After 7 wins / 20 losses, your hidden SR changes since your Last Division placement will be summed up and decide your new Division.
- Your SR changes after each game is based on the difference between your team average hidden SR and the other side’s average hidden SR, and your personal hidden SR.
- Your SR change will also be judged by common metric points listed on Battle Reports — e.g. weapon accuracy, special skill kills, to compared your key performance points to Division Average.
- If you are downgraded, your hidden SR could still be above 1000+ and will only gain 1 or 2 points because your team and your enemy team is mostly lower than 600. You will lose 8 to 10 points for each loss because you are supposed to carry the game.
- no way out , because you play in Bronze with huge number of returned players who has no idea about OW2 but still have comp mode unlocked.
- GG and HF on grinding.
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Imma keep grindin this comp ban screen until they can fix their servers. Literally on an 8 hour ban which should have been totally avoidable if they didn’t take away the rejoin option from OW1
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how much was the original sr gain for winning a game? Pretty sure it was around high 35-47ish.
Just don’t play trash comp. Its garbage, 6 years this is the best system they can come up with. Throw all players into essentially 2 ranks then just see what happens? Its trash that’s what happened. These games are complete and total unbalanced trash where nobody has the correct rank and its just an unfun mess. Cassidy and Sym on my team literally every single game lol. Garbage! trying to tank for useless players on weak heroes lol good times.
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It’s going to be rough in Bronze 5 until people like me grind out the wins to get to our true rank. The problem is we are stuck on Bronze 5 for WAY to long and ruining match after match since the hidden SR number is much higher than any other tier.
Bronze 5 is absolutely carry-able on any role right now you just have to focus on how YOU can tide the match over. Use the mic, be positive, and call out when to push aggro as a team when an enemy healer/tank is killed.
You have to keep in mind that higher ranked players are on the other Bronze 5 team and capitalize on every mistake effectively. True Bronze players are just not there in game sense.
My honest opinion - if you aren’t getting a 60-70%+ WR in Bronze 5 right now just don’t play competitive. Wait until the dust settles and then begin to climb.
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Its just not fun at all. Playing tank is completely garbage at low ranks. They’re either complaining cause you aren’t using a barrier. Complaining that you’re throwing/over extending by taking space. Running in font of you and dying then blaming you again for not having a barrier. Or they never even make it to the payload point or robot the entire match and just get spawn trapped the entire round. Its so bad lol I cant do it hah
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Thank you Fho I was already suspecting this as well.
I do not have the mental fortitude to hard carry against the Diamonds stuck in Bronze so I will wait a week or so before stepping in again.
Didn’t Blizzard mention something about being more communicative and transparent? Hasn’t been a Blizzard rep post in a few days now about anything other than server issues.
Odd that.
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Where in the world did you come up with these numbers/stats?
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Mind being a bit more specific?
SR ranking is all from OW1 and I am speculating since there is no transparency in OW2.
Mostly wondering about the SR #'s. You answered that. Thanks.
To add to this and confirm, I was high plat or maybe diamond back when OW1 first came out. I think around seasons 5 and 6? Havent played since so my account probably decayed alot and on top of the soft reset put me at bronze 5 after placements. It took me about 35 wins to get to bronze 3. Im now silver 4 and climbing. Theres hope out there, dont give up on the grind.
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Good to hear others are experiencing the same - thank you for adding that here!
I think we are really closer to what is happening here even if the numbers are slightly off.
What needs to be changed: “Smurf” detection and the system skipping ranks BEFORE someone hits 1100 hidden SR in Bronze 5
Ranks above diamond decay but under that it doesn’t. So even if you were diamond, you would’ve been platinum.
I was diamond previously…Bronze 5. I refuse to play anymore ranked games until blizzard corrects my ranking - if this was OW1, then I’d expect low gold or above as a minimum.
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So basically you are saying that I will be stuck in bronze 5 forever? I’ll get on and play and I have no group and do fine at my role as support but get steamrolled 3-5 of the first games i play then win maybe 2 or 3 and get steamrolled again. Ain’t no way that is right and Bronze 5 play.
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I won most of my Lucio games, performed with the most healing (enemy team included), occasionally did at least the third most damage, next qualifying I was still bronze 5. The two games after that, the two DPS on my teams together didn’t even get over 5 kills and we lost. I was telling them to go for the enemy supports first but their aiming was absolutely terrible - it just isn’t fair to be playing ranked with people like this when I was diamond in OW1.
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