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If only the hero having ice wall had two baseline ways to slow people and more through talents to help land that thing.

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I wanted to replace it by reducing cooldown and mana cost plus increasing range , having vp doesn’t work on allies is useful only for escaping situations but at the same time preventing vp from saving allies from warranted lethal damage like pyroblast or saving a keep from getting destroyed … etc

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Yes you can combo it. But why would you ever want to handicap yourself like that? You can do better combo with snowball for same effort, deal damage to them while they are stunned vs stopped and it gathers all the targets to that single spot. Delay of icewall is what 0,75s at start and at end 2-2,5s? It’s much easier to hit the snowball which has 0,5s cast and it starts instant once cast. While icewall will never catch anybody with movement ability the snowball can be comboed due to knockback time because of the shorter delay. Did I mention you can also push people out and peel with snowball too so it’s not just kill set up? Ohh yeah I guess I did mention it has more utility. Not to mention the travel time of snowball is something like 3s from start to end during which heroes inside are off the battle vs 2,5s of icewall stop on top of stun and damage. There is a good reason why picking icewall is considered trolling, it is such a bad ult in comparison to snowball.

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I 100% agree that avalanche is way better than ice wall in comparison.
I do not agree that ice wall is the worst ult of the game as a stand alone ability.
If anything it shows how OP avalanche is imho.