It so happened that I earned the status of a leaver. Yes, it was my fault, I admit it. I had an urgent need to leave the computer. Well, okay. I need to win two games. Everything would be fine, but the last twenty matches were nothing but losses. In the last two, my team had a real chance to win. But everything was ruined by the idiots who started AFKing at that very moment. I was especially pissed off by Raynor from the last match. We reached the enemy core, we had a little more to push, and at that very moment this moron went AFK. Well, of course, the enemy took advantage of this and turned the tables. Of course, I threw a report on Raynor, but whatâs the point? Reports only work here with the N-word, and not always. It would have been better if they had just banned me and thatâs it.
Do them in ARAM. As far as I can tell, thereâs no separate queue for ARAM games, and games are over a lot quicker anyway.
All this happened in ARAM. Thereâs no point in entering quickmatches as a leaver. Almost no one plays there.
Yes, matches in ARAM are faster, but that doesnât make them any easier. Actually, the problem of AFK players is especially acute here.
Damn, itâs not that the leaver status bothered me that much. In fact, almost nothing changed for me - I still mostly play with AI. But damn, I still entered quickmatches from time to time - they give more experience. Damn, the leaver status is essentially limbo, from which it is impossible to escape. At least, without a fair amount of luck.
And I was given this status without warning. In League of Legends, at least, you are given a warning before sanctions are applied.
The leaver punishment is rather mild. While you donât receive a warning, the system does allow you to leave at least one match without being put into the leaver queue. If you leave again within a couple of weeks, then you will get your first leaver penalty.
If you donât leave any matches after around four weeks, the system allows you to leave yet another match without punishment.
I quite dislike the report system for Hots, but I think the punishment for leaving games is not only fair, but if anything, too lenient.
A very fair punishment, yeah. Limbo with other leavers. No way. It would be fair if they gave a ban for leaving. First a short-term one, and then with each violation increasing exponentially.
It is meant to be a punishment to deter people from leaving frequently. If the consequences arenât actually punishing, games in the regular queue would be ten times as annoying due to leavers.
Itâs not a punishment if it doesnât make you seriously want to avoid it.
Admittedly, I have done some less-than-amazing things to avoid leaving. Like letting my kid play for me while I answer the door. I came back to a lot of hate.
If leaver que only had play 3 games then people would just afk in base. And that is not punishment. I can get if you had a power surge and you ended up in leaver then it indeed sucks. But if you are leaving every game just to waste your own teams time and energy then you deserve it. +
Why? You need to work on your ability to control your addiction (if you mean to quit), or just start a new account anyway. Although the game fundamentally doesnât reward trying to win, so I personally have found other ways to have fun on hots, that donât involve destroying enemy core. Example: if the 4 teammates are feeding, and they spam ping boss, even though itâs obvious enemies are coming, just go help them with boss, and keep an eye on enemies getting close; at first sign, back off. This is but 1 of quite a few things that make me smile in an otherwise terrible match.
I recommend you too to find fun in lost games too. Even in the worst one. Itâs not worth playing a game that makes you angry.
There is NOTHING FUN about losing. NOTHING! Especially if you lose because of some idiot who decided to troll.
if you genuinely think there is ânothing funâ about losing, then donât âwasteâ your time playing games where losing is the majority of the activity.
meanwhile, âskilledâ players like having a particular amount of challenge that might get them to lose because there is an amount of effort needed to feel rewarded for more than a mindless victory. However, mobile mediums gratify people with empty wins to the point they stopped learning how to have fun and demand to effectively be an entertained vegetable instead.
Part of the reason I bother to pick up a new game is having outcomes that cause me to lose so it has this cycle of discovery, improvement, and anticipation for something even more loss-worthy to come after.
Which is excatly why leavers queue works.
You were the âtrollâ when you left the game which gave you the penalty.
You made 4 people lose a game because you were the"troll" regardless of how justified your reason may be.
Let this be a learning expirence, if you could simply wait it out, it wouldnât work as a punishment.
A well-designed matchmaker will mean that given time, you, your teammates, and your opponents will all be the same skill level, and you will lose roughly half of your matches.
With that in mind, if there is nothing at all fun about losing, you might want to stick to playing vs AI.
Iâm actually in agreement with this. Leaver queue sucks, and thatâs speaking from someone who hasnât actually been in leaver queue for years now.
Personally, Iâd rather them just do what other games do and give a day or so ban on the game rather than forcing people to win. The current leaver queue just encourages toxicity.
While Iâm onboard with your suggestion, Iâm very confident that if leavers were given a day ban, we would have people boasting here that when they leave matches, they simply switch to an alt account to run out the clock.
Why do you think the leaver queue as currently implemented encourages toxicity?
Oh I agree. Thereâs nothing fun about must wins either, though. Itâs very often just the enemy team getting the atrocious L. Thatâs why you make your own fun. Thatâs why thereâs so many trolls too (also because they donât ban trolls).
Thereâs nothing new to try, nor much purpose in tryharding when too often thereâs a team griefed by the players or the matchmaker (or both). HOTS becomes a âmake your own adventureâ type of game. May I suggest playing laner Nova? Iâve had fun being top xp and bullying the enemies out of lane, while allies go 0/7 like usual. Iâd also make use of the voicelines, spray, and sometimes target the âsweatyâ enemy thatâs on 0 deaths then B-step a little. Itâs the small things that matter.
Might not work for the thin skin people out there, that actually think chat moderation is the thing keeping hots from being fun. Youâll get quite a few people malding (even if youâre doing far more than them while playing completely suboptimal).
No it does what should have been done long time ago. Punish people who cant be bothered to stay until the end. And then play victim when they finally ends up in it. Play 3 games as it was before only made one team go afk in base until the other team reached your core and won. That is not punishment. I can still remember those games. I ended in leaver que cause i left a game out of frustration. Then after people had picked thier heroes then you would see 2-4 people instantly leave the game on your team.
That is not punishment. That is just you telling the trolls its ok to leave games and ruin games over and over. Normalizing this is not what you want to do.
Iâd say it doesnât encourage âtoxicityâ but rather âtoxicâ players just look for something to blame instead. For anyone that doesnât get âwhat they wantâ simply by them demanding it, anything will seem like an âencouragementâ because theyâve taught themselves to blame the world around them instead of adapting and improving.
Again, I tacitly disagree. Not everyone who gets into leaver queue does it out of a rage quit. Sometimes obligations happen; unexpected obligations. Sometimes they happen more than once in a month.
To the people saying âtheyâll just get on a second accountâ, whatâs stopping them from doing that now? How often does this actually happen currently?
Hi Xenterex, would you mind editing the quote of my post to show it in full? The way you have edited my post (and your reply) runs completely opposite to what I wrote in my reply to Kamizombie and is misrepresentative.