Damn. This whole place is just a fraudulent poser.
âItâs a crazy, crazy, crazy World.â One of my favorite old American films.
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Enemy nuke, launched.
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Measure for measure, the forums back then, are pretty much what they are now, only with less activity.
I disagree with Sami only very slightly, as there were a few more master players here who would post some hero guides and share some valuable insights. There were, though, far more voices with the usual complaints, or those who were just plain wrong about things like âTracer is OP, no counterplay, OW heroes ruined Hotsâ, as just one example.
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Something like a city house. It contains everything - pubs, shops, living rooms, rest rooms, game centres etc.
People come into X places to discuss Y things. Sometimes they fight, sometimes donât.
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(this user has been permanently banned from the heroes of the storm forums)
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You either misunderstood my post, or youâre being willfully rude and obtuse.
I mentioned that there were more master players way back when, precisely because they frequently posted hero guides, gameplay guides, analyzed replays, with the skills and knowledge to make those guides worthwhile and educational.
Youâre a Gold player, who is fairly new. I am Plat with many friends who are former or current Master and Diamond players. While itâs possible you might be able to âblow my mindâ, your post history suggests you are still learning the game and that there are large gaps in your knowledge.
That wasnât a knock on you, Iâve been playing since around launch and I still have much to learn and there are many forum regulars who are Gold who post informative and useful guides.
The difference between you and me and the majority who post guides/etc. here, is Iâm (they) not bragging about my insane knowledge that is so out of the box it will âblow you awayâ, because itâs so incredible nobody would have thought of it, but you, Landmine.
You, just straight up insulted me multiple times without provocation in your post, I gather you donât see the irony in your own statement? Never ending bragging about your âmadâ skills, I would argue, also adds nothing of value to the forums.
As an aside, do post your guide, Sami and a few others have been of late. Iâve been following Kettuâs Tracer thread with interest, as I only started seriously playing Tracer about a month or so ago.
Sami posted an extensive guide about Tracer a couple of years ago, which was the catalyst for me to challenge myself to learn Tracer in the first place, Iâve picked up much that has improved my in game performance with the hero.
So yes, post your guide, blow our minds, guides are always welcome.
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Thatâs skillZ with a âzâ. He earned that letter.
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Iâm not making fun of him, but he is bragging about his âinsane skillsâ, whilst at the same time saying few people post anything worthwhile on the forums, which is completely untrue.
Samiâs hero guides, aside from them being very detailed, have made me enthusiastic to play heroes like Tracer and Hogger, simply because the information has been laid out in an interesting and engaging manner.
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The idea of writing a guide, or doing anything educational in the hopes of improving another personâs player, is to not care about validation but to share knowledge without the thought of any sort of glory. By throwing out a guide into a forums not only is it to educate others but to also become available for others to potentially spot issues that may have been overlooked in the hours, days, weeks, or even months of painstaking work put into the project. Some people may post a comment concerning a strategy and thus a guide can grow as other seasoned players chip in. Those who truly care about sharing their knowledge are easy to spot as they dedicate a lot of time and effort to write their guides and mayhaps have some blip towards their credentials written in somewhere, but otherwise do not write further than that. Their work is filled with passion for the project.
The moment you put more attention towards whether or not the guide will garner attention instead of passing on knowledge to better another personâs game you fail as a potential instructor/teacher/mentor.
As someone who is exclusively an vs A.I player, I find your comments discouraging to read concerning your self proclaimed skill, and often gloss over them entirely to read others. While I have no desire to go and play against there have been members of this forums that have been kind enough to offer the hand of mentorship without speaking of their rank, skill, or superiority.
Instead of beating around the bush just write the guide and post it on the forums so those are willing to read it can do so and those with the knowledge can help touch it up if they so do so.
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I know youâre not⌠but I am lol
Indeed, there are plenty of resources out there if, youâd like to improve. As you made mention earlier, those guides came from actual master ranked players too.
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While I am far from being a Master player, I have written a few guides here, mostly for people getting started with a hero (Blaze) or role (tank). I do think everyone has something to contribute, but tone will definitely make a difference in how well a guide is received, and how useful the target audience finds it.
I am considering writing a guide to offlaning, just covering the very basics.
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Yeah, but youâre not dishonest about your guides. Youâre upfront with âhey, Iâm such and such rank and here is what Iâve learned, etcâ.
Obviously, if you wrote a puff piece prefaced with âMy enemies have no choice but to crumble under my power and 3 digit IQ!â, it would not be well received.
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Yes, I know, which is why I wrote that players of every rank have posted useful guides here, and not just master players. I just wanted to make that clear, as for example, your Tank Guide helped improve my overall performance in areas lacking, that I hadnât considered before.
What you arenât doing is calling the community âa jokeâ, while bragging and boasting about your amazing skills, yet not contributing anything beyond that.
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unbelievable, people read guides to learn? i never thought of it like that⌠/s
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That kinda talk isnât going to fly here. Iâve been playing non-stop for 5+ years, and am quite the accomplished War veteran.
Iâm not trying to be mean but, iâm also not going to be Gaslighted either.
Not buying it. Someone else here already dispelled that âmythâ that this place was once filled with âWarriorsâ that talked strategy all day.
Nope, this place was always a troll-encrusted, joke of a forum.
Why is it so hard to believe i have insights that others lack? Just look at my Hammer: My style of gameplay goes against EVERYTHING the âprosâ claim works, and yet iâve been Hugely successful 
And no one taught me this style, itâs entirely my own creation
The thing is, i amp up the Bravodo on purpose because i know how much the trolls here canât stand it whenever i talk about my various successes in the game.
I always ignore their attempts to start fights. It burns them up everytime they post at me trying to pick a fight, and i donât respond. lol.
You see this is WHY i stopped talking to you a while back. You have a chip on your shoulder, you get offended at the drop of a hat, and you ALWAYS want to fight. I have to choose my words carefully or you go off the deep end.
Sorry but, those are âYOUâ problems⌠and iâm not obligated to fix them.
Why? So Peeps here can read my guide, take what they deem useful, then turn around and troll me after?
Naaaa, i know how this dump operates by now. This place can stick it 
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I said depends on how you look at it, doesnât mean it always like this and I also putting this without context involved at all which I really should considering how this is going.
June 2017 till October 1st 2018.
Which was my time on the older forums, was completely different era if not, pretty messy and full of a lot of odd balls, I recall someone mentioned prior those years who would post extremely bad takes in 2015-2016, Laria(?) Laran(?) some Bronze Tyrande one trick idk (@ Xentrex please help me with this one), and then followed by legitimately bad people who provoke toxic environment of discussion by blatantly making flame bait threads or completely not discuss and just there to insult, guides are absolutely useless because of the voting system.
The other issue was the usual spam of known trolls like Kagome to a point she literally made the âD.Vaâ portrait as a troll icon, if you see someone with it, you know what to except. This has died really quickly after the older one was axed.
And then thereâs people like HealsOnHeels whoâs posting about⌠Taylor Swift? They exist as filler text but generally was spam.
Thereâs just so many to mention of those players, but overall all of these have impacted the stigma to âjust post on redditâ, because the Forums were literally unreadable or impossible to have a normal discussion without them pushing garbage that has no contextual relevance to the discussion.
October 2018 < Now
Either way new forum existed, the above was still relevant but the lack of downvotes allowed people to not be concerned and so guides flourished more so trolling was far far less to happen and discussion became better overall.
If I would say when was the best year, it would be around 2020, it was going very smooth with a lot of the usual activity and people wanted to discuss some really good stuff with data, but the forum has gone 5 years for it to get into a good reputation it was very late.
Obviously my comment implies it was always bad, no, it was bad for people who would glance on this the first time. And it was hard to give a space environment for new posters without being smacked trash by a troll. This wasnât the case anymore of course.
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Why? Because you said so? I donât know why itâs so hard to have some humility to just recognize that youâre probably average at best, and thatâs WITH your best heroes. That doesnât make your viewpoint automatically invalid, but it gives it context. Being a âveteranâ (of QM?) doesnât necessarily mean youâre accomplished.
Iâm gonna share something I never have on the forums. I couldnât really stand Sami as a poster for a long time which dates back to the old forums. Just constantly spamming really low quality posts to sound cutesy to a particular forum clique and whenever he delved into actual game posts which wasnât that often, it was filled with just really bad information and strange thinking from someone who didnât understand the game. It was never SO bad that I would constantly need to correct unlike some on here, as it was mostly just harmless fluff, but it was just a lot to wade through, and boy was it a lot.
But eventually he sacked up and started playing more competitively, and he got better. And with that, his post quality became less vapid, less blamey, he stopped knee jerked defending/elevating other poor quality posters just because, and he actually had something WORTH saying which made his posts far more substantive. Over time, I stopped cringing and eventually found myself actually taking his posts more seriously. And with that, his posts became more helpful because he had insight, experience, and a record that was earned to back it up.
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Lyra and âLyraâs Vultureâ?
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When I first joined the forums, I was still very new to the game, canât blame you for taking my info with rolling eyes. 