Abbas bugs are way over tuned. The health regen on top of insane pushing power. It takes all of a Zaryas grenades to kill ONE. Like the direction but too much at once.
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Fully charged? Partially charged? Not charged?
It’s an important distinction, uncharged grenades barely tickle regular minions.
Aba is particularly brutal in qm with offlaners who want to aram all game.
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probably uncharged 
Baseline (lvl 0) numbers + talents could post the math, but that doesn’t really matter since grenades are worse waveclear than zarya’s aa. But if a zarya went for grenades, they tend to be energy starved, especially if they’re being ‘forced’ to clear aba waves; without an ally to shield, and skipping the other energy-source talents puts zarya at a low performance.
Some of that is a player-made issue, per se, but since QM tries to match ‘roles’ zarya’s that don’t anticipate needing to build around an aba role are going to be setting themselves up for a bad time even before the recent talent changes.
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Since this is the forums, OP couldn’t be at fault. If it isn’t OP, Zarya extraordinaire, then it must be the developer who overtuned Abathur.
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Nobody ever talks about it but zarya is like secretly a super super strong hero if you play it well. Very high damage and utility, amazing on pushes. Backing to clear minions is certainly not her specialty though.
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I played QM as Abathur at least 4 rounds to see how strong the Locust build can be. Mostly though, I kept getting the 5k siege damage Nova on my team while the enemy team had strong siege capability, so we were not able to carry that weight. Honestly, I felt annoying but always just too little too late. Like I could take out a keep they were ignoring—because they were getting the final game-ending objective. And because I was full locusts, I didn’t really help contest that objective much.
Anyway, I gave up and started playing Nova with the goal of doing more than 5k siege damage while having Abathur on my team. I think we won most of those matches.
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zag main here. aba was already one of the most powerful hero’s and the buffs are too much. I can kill them but the come too often. i can’t obj or tf most of the late game bc of it.
Abba is just too much with his split push. It will pull you from a team fight or you lose a keep.
Surely something could be done?
Yeah. What will be done is a nerf. But it’s weird how so many people are acting like it’s a catastrophe. We’ve seen strong talents get nerfed a hundred times. But it’s always the same thing when it happens again.
That’s the point. You aren’t just allowed to play ARAM and succeed. Pick a character who can wave clear efficiently instead of going for max DPS.
Abathur is the cutest video game character I have ever seen
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