It’s almsot obvious Madame Lazul was the answer for this ‘where is Tyrande’ cry. The answer was pretty clear on ‘no’ with Tyrande. They’re not saying ‘not ever’ because they don’t want to be bound by their own word, in case they decide to bring back old promotional items/card backs and such. But as of right now, it’s simply a ‘no’. People wanted an alternative priest portrait? Here she is, Madame Lazul. Some people like to bring out that ‘Tyrande in 2017’ as promise, but that was pretty obvious also, it more referring to Korea, SEA, China release.
No other old promotional items or card backs have been re-release. What makes you think they will bring back Tyrande, or it being the first among them?
Dude if they come out stating, “we won’t bring her back”, I will accept it.
What I hate the most is the lack of communication on purpose for certain topics, and Tyrande is just another example in the long list.
And no the answer is not clear at all, the new priest hero is here cause apart from Tyrande no other hero was available.
Madame Lazul was going to be released regardless, this thread has no influence on that.
If such a large chunk of people misunderstood their promise then they could have just come out saying “guys we were talking about Asia etc…, otherwise Tyrande won’t come back” but they did not and they always said they want to propose her again to keep people happy but without binding themselves.
I don’t think a lot of people would. They’ve clarified here and elsewhere they were bringing here back for everyone, everywhere. To suddenly drop that one on us would probably cause an uproar. Not just here, but with the playerbase in general. There’s people probably just watching the thread, or waiting in their country who check the news threads or whatever and actually taking them at their word.
To see them pull a 180 like that…would be worse than the initial fiasco.
Except time and time again, they’ve come out and said they’re bringing her back, for everyone. They’ve just been wishy washy on the timeline after they broke the year of the mammoth promise. Now they have to deliver, or they lose the last little bit of credibility they still have.
I’m not talking about Madame Lazul as the sign of ‘clear no’. As you seem already aware, this thread nor forum is not new regarding Tyrande. Check the old forum thread. The answer is clear on ‘no, no plan as of now’. Some people just pretend to not comprehend it.
And no, you don’t know whether Lazul skin was going to be released regardless of this whole Tyrande shenanigan. I made a speculation on how this might’ve caused the new ‘priest skin’ to come out but you’re speaking in absolute. It’s fine if you think this whole Tyrande thing didn’t influence the new priest skin release, but then speak in speculative.
Either way, let’s be realistic here. Do you think the chance for Tyrande skin re-release is higher or lower with this new priest skin release?
Of course the Tyrande releasing chance are way lower now that they have released another priest hero (locked behind spending 80€ if you are interested in the hero only) and that is why people are more angry now.
They for sure did not create an entire expansions with Lanzul as a Priest alt. hero just cause people wanted Tyrande on the forum, also because if I want Tyrande I might not care of a no name “Priest” hero.
So yeah, I am sure this thread did not Influence their plans, like feedbacks don’t impact their plans on other games.
Don’t tell me “how to speak”, I express how I like and if what I say is not true I will gladly accept a comment by Blizzard saying the opposite.
There is a difference between what you say and what they told the community again and again, the one that does not seem to get the difference is you.
They stated MANY times that the plan is to bring her back, and that is why this thread exist, because we want them to be more transparent with their community.
P. S: League of Evil class already have alternate heroes (Nemsy, Rasta khan, Mechajaraxxus, Morgl, Magni) with priest being the only exception since Tyrande was not even available everywhere. So again, speak speculative if YOU like.
Your response is all over the place. I’ll try to link related stuff together.
Of course they didn’t plan this whole expansion because of Tyrande thread. That’s not what I said, is it?
Funny how you didn’t mention rogue hero, Maiev, which isn’t available to players who started after YotR I believe (Rastakhan and Mech Jaraxxus were from pre-order as well btw). And priest was picked to be given an alternative hero. Wonder why.
And despite you trying to act all relevent with your point with,
these,
this is you being speculative, as in not speaking in absolute. So whatever, my point was already taken.
One of the reason people asked for Tyrande was because of wanting an alternative priest portrait. What you want is not the only thing that matters in this. Plus, Blizz stated they want exclusive items to be exclusive.
Yes, but not as of now, and that they will post details if something changes. What some of you guys seem to want is some monthly report or something. Thread is ailve, if something changes, there is likely a mention of some sort. If there is none, it is likely nothing has changed, as in still no plan as of now.
I think I mentioned this in a very first Tyrande debate (the one that precedes the main one in the old forum), but if you want fast reaction/result, use Twitter to contact them. Unless you noticed, when Jesse, our former CM, did mention that nothing has changed in the old thread, these players’ response wasn’t ‘oh, ok. post us details if something changes’. It was, ‘but why?!? blah blah blah blah blah’. So don’t be surprised if some devs/mods did see this thread but decide not to repeat the same thing over and over again.
You should’ve just left it then. This only screams ‘I don’t have an argument against it’. So yeah, have a nice day. For the record, nothing personal really.
…because of us. We’re coming up on a year from the last real blue post. They weren’t even dealing with the attack posts, downvote manipulation, etc Like they promised they would in the old thread.
They essentially let those people troll us, because it seemed to serve their purposes to do so. And good luck if you actually reported them. I won’t go so far as to say they were hoping it would drive a lot of us off…but some might.
Yes, because as I pointed out (as with the completely inaccurate and untrue statements made about “The Art of Hearthstone”) that anyone with even a little bit of knowledge on the subject knows the excuses they keep giving don’t add up. In some cases (see example on the aforementioned book) there are outright acts of dishonesty. Rather than correct the record, posts are deleted (that don’t violate coc, they simply point out that the information isn’t accurate and provide a breakdown of what the correct process is).
A lack or transparency, honest and open communication, and everything else they claim to “be working on,” have been “learning/growing moments,” and they still are doing the same stuff today they were doing two years ago.
To use an example of someone with a drinking problem: if they keep all the flowery and amazing talk about wanting to change, etc but never actually put the bottle down…you’d never believe they were serious about their statements about change.
In a similar manner, if team 5 was serious about all this “growth,” etc they’d actually do something different (in a positive manner) rather than the same tired stonewalling, radio silence nonsense we’ve seen for years now.
I get that some people may not have got it. Did you all get Khadgar or Mecha-Jarraxus? I remember signing up for Twitch Prime here in the UK specifically for Tyrande card because I was promised it was a timed exclusive. If they re-release it in the UK then the original promotion was a lie.
Both Khadgar and Mecha-Jarraxus was obtainable by all people fairly. (same grounds) The problem with Tyrande is that it was locked to specific european countries.
Moreover, people could actually cheat with vpn etc to get the tyrande hero skin, which blizzard told people not to do.
This with a promise to bring her back so people from other countries would be able to get her without “cheating”.
I was one of the people who did not VPN cheat to get tyrande because i belived them when they stated that she would be available again.
That was over 2 years ago.
The original promotion was already bad. Giving people a fair chance to get the skin now does not seem like a stretch, especially after blizzards promise to re-release her.
You got her for free because you were situated in the UK while i was not. I decided to trust Blizzard so I did not use any VPN to fake my location to aquire her. It was a free promotion, so it would only be fair to give others a chance to get her as well.
Excluding other countries from the same region, that play on the same server is just not the way to go.
This especially because tyrande is a well known lore character with many fans.
Moreover, she was the only second option for anduin for over 2 years time.
Jesse promised a re-release several times in the prior thread.
I want to see that promise kept!
So i decided not to get the new hero, Even if i would have wanted her. I think its time to just walk away.
Not worth it if the company cannot even respond.
It did not get a release at all for me, so a rerelease is impossible. Maybe its just new ground for a game company to ignore entire country’s as a positive to there players.
Well some of there players.
Oh hey, new forums for them to try to bury most of what’s already been brought up.
So, with the new forums and job cuts, that Jesse was fired?
Was hopeful for a new Priest Hero, especially a Forsaken to tied me over. I’m sure I’m part of the problem, but I enjoyed Mecha-Jaraxxus and Rastakhan…but what was offered with Shadows just seems so… blasse. I ended up not getting this bundle, esp with the issues that plague this game and this company…
How Tyrande or a first-time Forsaken Hero wasn’t picked is just mind-bogling…esp considering how popular the Forsaken as a playable WoW race is
It’s clear this thread isn’t ending anything soon. Blizzard will have to deal with it staining their front page for eternity until they give the fans what they want. Stay strong!
