Random or rigged?

I don’t see a pattern of a card getting drawn in a specific turn, this to me is just random, and I think most people will agree on. Sure Ive seen for example one legendary get drawn at turn 8 so many times, but I also seen it be first and last, and all other turns too. :grin:

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The dollar is the bottom line.
Casinos used to rig slot machines to never payout. Finally after much complaining gambling was regulated.
Blizzard is not regulated. You can’t honestly believe they give a “F” about their reputation THEY ARE SELLING LOOT BOXES TO KIDS.

Now you only need to prove the rigging. Or quit the game. So easy.

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What for? You gain absolutely nothing by proving it. Unless you just want to be sure yourself, of course.

O fcourse it’s rigged and anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. They are a billion dollar corporation that makes millions from people losing. It’s the same tactics Casinos use. They want you to spend money on multiple decks. If everyone climbed to legendary just using 1 deck they would be out millions of dollars. Thats why they have to rig the match ups.

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So quit? …

There’s no reason to quit a game that keeps on giving… things to complain about.

Why quit a game you hate playing and think is out to get you when you can instead complain about that time you lost a game and blame it on Blizzard rigging the game?

I know personally that all my losses were due to rigging. For some reason when I involve other people with that idea, it turns out wrong. But for me it’s true! Cuz I would never lose, because I like winning. So. That proves the rigging.

People who frequently rush to deny others’ claims tend to be the type of person who avoids putting forth the effort to prove their own beliefs. This can manifest in different ways. Some phrases and terms have come to refer to some of these manifests. One well known phrase is having one’s “head in the sand.” It refers to ignoring threats. One term is “obfuscation.” It refers to something hidden in plain sight due to abundant data. Trying to find a person in a crowd is an example of naturally occurring obfuscation. Websites that summarize match data in millions of games also obfuscate certain data. Another manifestation is looking at the wrong data. For instance, if the government were to only use the average wealth as the means for tracking economic fairness, then society would quickly become a dystopia.

If anyone wants to put forth effort to prove to themselves whether any kind of matchmaking manipulation occurs, then it is as simple as making a deck of the lowest played class. Shaman for instance. Make a deck. Play 20 games. You will assuredly match against more Shamans than you thought existed. Alright that was a funny exaggeration, but you will definitely meet more Shamans than if you had played the highest played class. Demon Hunter for instance. Another simple test is to substitute different tech cards. Easily provable in a short number of games, if not the first game after the change. A “destroy all secrets” card for instance. Not all supposed tech cards are considered tech cards btw. Sometimes what players consider a tech card was factored as an expansion norm, so it would not affect matchmaking. An anti-dragon card for instance.

Have fun everyone. Be good to each other. Remember; people, not politics; people, not profit; people, not problems. Community is about people.

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Why should i put any extra effort into proving my own beliefs if my own experience of the game (been playing since launch) confirms the status quo (i.e. not rigged and perfectly in line with normal RNG distribution, unless proven otherwise)? Are you seriously expecting us to not demand proof from those challenging the status quo? Or even worse, are you shifting the burden of proof to us? That’s preposterous!

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Just a question. Was it ever proven to NOT be rigged? If it hasn’t then how is that the status quo? Unless you have insider knowledge, such as being a Blizzard employee, maybe what you’ve been experiencing already is a rigged game, but you’ve always felt it to be RNG. In this case, the status quo would be unknown.

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You can never prove a negative. Go look it up.

Ok, I’ll just accept you can’t prove a negative. So in which case, still unknown is the status quo. Because we only know it’s RNG based on what Blizzard has said and what we’ve presumed. Have you personally seen the coding for the game?

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No i haven’t. Would you believe them if they published the exact RNG seed formula, or any portion of the related code? And if yes, how would your perception of the RNG change? In any case, there’s a damn good reason why they’ll never publish it. So best you can do is prove they’re playing dirty. I’m waiting. We’ve been waiting for years.

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Yea, that’s true. I think it’s a pointless debate since we have no way of finding out.

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It’s a pointless debate. But it’s equally pointless and foolish to think that no rigging happens.

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Assuming that - was it ever proven it is fair then? No negatives here, only positive.

Also, not true. You can easily prove SOME negatives. Example: that there is not a set of all sets, or that there is not finite amount of prime numbers. Just saying.

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Yeah well, notice how those are abstract concepts in mathematics. What I meant is you cannot really prove that something (as in, a phenomenon) does not actually exist.

Phlogiston, something considered to be quite real, was proven not to exist. I am looking forward for your next statement modification.

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