Go back to the article and look at the March Legend numbers. You will see a massive spike for April, coinciding with the new Rank system and DH release. I would add that there were a lot of new/returning players that month due to the free decks, but I don’t think they would have been playing in Diamond in significant enough numbers to spike the Legend numbers.
I personally never got to Legend under the old system, so there’s indeed a case to be made that the system change makes it easier. But at that point we’re doing an Apples to Oranges comparison. And not trying to explain why the April numbers are so massively bigger than any other month under the new system.
I’m really unsure how you justify labeling it something else to give it an entirely different price tag? When you do that you have fallen to marketting.
But like anything its value is completely up to those who own it and are willing to pay for it. If it is the best of what it is then someone is willing to pay anything for it, they can virtually charge anything they want.
But on the other hand games are just one form of entertainment, you could do this or something else. At it’s current cost, it has to be better than say buying a guitar.
I would feel bad for someone if they did spend $1000 on this game and that was a lot of money to them. To those who usually spend that much, it is like nothing, pocket change.
It does kind of suck being f2p for the first 3 years or so and for that reason it is very hard to call it f2p.
I’m all for complaining about the game being to expensive, but the people who want to be able to amass an entire collection, or even the majority of the cards without spending a cent are nothing short of delusional.
Sorry but Hearthstone is only a PC Game. You can’t say it is equal to MTCG which is firstly a real card game.
People are absolutely correct that they put HS in the gaming genre and don’t put it in TCG.
Or can you trade your cards? Nope all you buy is virtual and has no real value.
You aren’t collecting anything , you can’t sell or trade your “collection”. I can call modern warfare a collectible gun game if I want because there is a collection of guns, skins, and attachments but they are still video games. You can justify wasting your money however you want but you are only kidding yourself.
Such an opinion is silly to the point of being laughable. So - according to this cornball logic - a doofis operating under this sort of delusion would presumably demand that they should only have to pay a dollar for a hamburger at Five Guys. After all … you can get a burger at McDonalds dollar menu and anyone who pays $6 bucks for a burger at Five Guys is just a “a victim of marketing” because they are only “putting a different price tag” on the same thing.
Or - alternatively - a person who wasn’t self-delusional would accept the common sense, widely practiced, totally normal fact that different things have different prices. Duh.
you’re saying that because you lack of experience
The opposite, really. It is because of actual experience that I know the game can be played entirely for free and that payment is optional. The only people who think Hearthstone is “expensive” are the persons who are operating under self-imposed shackles of false expectation.
You aren’t collecting anything
You seem to be ignorant of the definition of what a “collection” is. I shall elucidate.
“dictionary/browse/collection?s=t”
“Something that is collected; a group of objects or an amount of material accumulated in one location, especially for some purpose or as a result of some process.”
The cards that are used in Hearthstone are COLLECTED by players into their COLLECTION for the purpose of playing them. It’s time some people stepped into the new century and accepted the reality that digital goods are just as valuable - or MORE so - than physical goods. Just because Hearthstone’s collection is digital does not make it somehow not a collection. Derp.
This is actually the problem. Quite dangerous problem for new players IMO.
“Just dust your stuff to make a deck when it rotates”
This makes people dont have anything left after months, or years, of grinding or cashing moneys. Butcher 3/4 of their stuff every rotation. Its basically the way blizzard took everything back from their players.
I mean, what if a hiatus player return at next rotation at april? whats left for them? Just one free deck? and use that deck for months to accumulate ALMOST one deck next expansion? and keep repeat it again and again to the infinity? No wonder people are burned up. Not even mention the meta changing nerfs too.
Initially, Im not trying to preaching wild here, but its just logical step. I have a deck or two in wild, the trusty good old trog golem shaman and some meme stuff. I play other modes or even other games too. then when I see a cool standard format deck, like Quest rogue, big priest, galakrond, or new class DH, I put my feet on standard again. But it wont be every expansion and season of it.
Standard wont be my default to go everytime I’m thinking of HS. I took hiatus quite often. I play many other fun games. The time Im returning, only wild that keeps welcomes me back.
…and whizbang too lately. The guy always give new toys to try every time I get back at expansion release. Cool guy.
Sure FTP means not getting everything on its release but how about still not having every classic card many years after release. I played on all 3 servers since open beta and the only server i managed to complete the full classic collection in on NA where i spent the most time and spent money. This is with doing every quest since open beta every Tavern Brawl since that was released and spending a good amount of time in Arena with an infinite win rate when they still gave Classic Packs with about a 50/25/25 split on time with 50% on NA and 25% each on Asia and EU.
As I said in other reply, it would be nice if we were able to get every single card at the end of each expancion (like we used to do with the adventures) but that would need a big change, changing the game from its core: Its monetisation, the work flow of the people behind this and the consept of the game it self, would need to be completely reworked, and now its too late for something like that.
I have also played since the beta. And I am still mising a lot of cards from the classic set, but I dont need or want to have all of them. Not being able to be a completionist doesnt mean that the free to play experience isnt fine
That’s true if you can consider hearthstone a premium game and that is something to consider, but I actually prefer the art style for gwent, I prefer the mechanics of MTG, I don’t mind so much which card game I play, this is what my friends were playing and overall I think HS is fine. You’re buying your burgers from the tourist area of town, not where the locals go to shop.
If putting $1 in the game was worth even 80c back on resale then I would agree maybe, but if you go on the black market and I am not suggesting you do this, but you’ll see you can see people only value the account at 10c on the dollar. There are reasons why this is the case, firstly the owner of the game is at full control of their product, as in they can theoretically close down their game or create Hearthstone 2.0 and you could lose your collection, you could get banned at any time for any lowly reason. I’ve had accounts in other games banned simply because they were hacked and the hacker did things that were bannable, my brother had his WoW account hacked at one point and I feel like he was very lucky to get it back, so that was one thing. Digital games come with risks associated.
You conveniently didn’t quote my next sentence where I said “you can’t do anything with your collection”. And my comparison to calling call of duty a gun collection game because there is a “collection” of guns, skins, and accessories. Other CCG allow you to actually trade your cards, you can do something with your collection even though it is digital, meanwhile HS devs freely admit that they don’t allow it because they want to maximize their profit. Even then if they stop supporting the game at some point guess what your collection is gone or worth nothing. That isn’t the same as a binder full of magic cards that somehow 20 years later have actually increased in value. There is not really much of a difference between your HS collection and any game that you pay for added content even mobile war games where money just speeds up time. There is no collection there but either way what you spend on the game can never be taken out of it or used anywhere other than in the game. Anyway HS “collection” is not that it’s digital, it’s that it does not exist outside of HS this isn’t bitcoin you are talking about. It’s the same as my “collection” of guns and maps in modern warfare but I have never looked at them that way. Did you take my comment out of context just so you had a reason to say derp?
Like I said, blizzard admits they won’t let you trade because of greed that should be the point here I don’t know why you want to defend them.
