How does Reborn work with Battlecry-enabled Deathrattles like this? Would you end up with two uses of the Deathrattle if you cast Embalming Ritual on this? Or would the second one summon nothing because it would lose the Battlecry part when Reborn? I’d assume the first, but I don’t think I’ve tried or remember seeing that exact sort of interaction happening before.
we can’t be sure about that since both “copy”. He doesn’t say “base” to suggest it doesn’t retain the buffs.
but even if this is the case, in most cases that doesn’t matter, it’s not uncommon to copy buffs with faceless, but it’s not the most common use of it either.
Am I missing something? A 3/3 that summons their 3/3 (example of an average turn 3) on death is already solid tempo. Then it only gets better and better as the game progresses.
Feels like people are thinking too greedy with this. Just chuck it in a tempo deck, copy anything at least moderately good and it’s already applying great pressure for a stand-alone 3 drop.
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Is Reckless Experimenter going to have a final hurrah after getting ignored and even nerfed!
There are definitely some fun combos to be had with this, perhaps Shadowy Figure and Voodoo Doll, particularly if you can hit RE with the cost reduction minion.
Unfortunately I think Melphina is probably right and we don’t really have the draw to pull that sort of stuff off relliably.
Still this is probably just a good minion worth including in just about any deck, a bit like a Piloted shredder on curve, slightly weaker first body, but probably better second.
Also a nice response to doomsayer to keep initiative.
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Another Embalming Ritual and Wretched Reclaimer target 
I would assume the second,Reborn minions come back without any buffs, and the deathrattle is essentially a buff acquired through the battlecry, the Reborn copy won’t have done the battlecry, so won’t get the dr.
Same if you Rez this, it will just be a 3/3.
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Won’t work well with 'balmy ritual or Wretched Reclaimer as it won’t keep it’s deathrattle unfortunately.
It should do. Wretched Reclaimer should trigger the deathrattle by killing Kaahrj summoning the minion. The same Kaahrj comes back (Embalming Ritual) with the target you already pre-selected so when it dies again, you get another copy.
I don’t see why the game would ‘lose’ that information in transit.
Think of Carniverous Cube coming back from N’Zoth , it has no dr, same with this.
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Yeah this will happen but I believe this is different because it’s not the same Kaahrj coming back. It’s like grabbing a random Kaahrj. I believe the difference is the ‘Reborn’ mechanic because the game decipher’s that as the SAME minion, therefore with the same Deathrattle.
I guess the only way to know for sure is to actually try the combo.
i’m thinking that it won’t work with reborn.
but even then, i really can’t see any downside to this minion to include it in just about every priest deck except Res Priest.
3/3/3 DR: summon a minion you chosoe, is alreayd increadibly strong both in early and at late game.
And hitting this with shadowy figure and etc will also be increadibuly good. No need to base your deck around it, just a good target if you happen to have other DR minions that you want to hit as well.
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It is confirmed on the Reddit thread by Donais, you just get the minion with no Battlecry so it has no Deathrattle.
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I don’t know why this was ever in doubt. It’s literally carnivorous cube’s interaction. If you cube a Voidlord then when the cube dies you get 2 voidlords. But if you cube the cube with voidlords in it you get the first cubes voidlords immediately (it died after all), but when the second cube dies instead of 2 more voidlords you get a pair of cubes. Cubing the cube gives you more cubes, because the battlecry needs to trigger for the mob to have a deathrattle. In this case, without the battlecry it’s literally just a vanilla 3 mana 3/3.
Also I’m bumping my rating of this from 2 to 3, but not higher than that. Tempo is important and it’s good at that, but it has no synergies beyond that, and it actually has anti-resurrect synergy. That means it wants to go in a midrange deck. It doesn’t go in combo priest (too slow), it doesn’t go in resurrect priest (terrible rez target, and if you play it on curve and it turns into a 2/3 or something that’s also a crappy minion and you don’t want to resurrect THAT either). But Priest has no midrange archetype right now, and there aren’t enough tools to support it. The deck this wants to go in doesn’t exist. Priest’s midrange strategy is just too “fair”, and when the meta is filled with massive power spikes left and right playing a “fair” deck just isn’t good enough anymore. That’s why it’s such a low rating. Not because it’s a bad card (its actually good), but because the type of deck it wants to go in is bad.
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This card isn’t supposed to go into combo or res priest, its supposed to create a new, midrange tempo archetype with value and mindsteal/ mind control and galakrond, where you repeatidly destroy board while generating value. For now its doesn’t seem like it would work but maybe its ll be stronger than we think.
By the way, aggro priest was like wtf before uldum was out, and the card created a new tier 1 decks. Why wouldn’t that be the case now for midrange? priest already has a few good card like Lazul, and you can even do a hightlander priest with alextrasza and Zephrys now.
Yeah I really don’t think a mid-range/tempo Priest is that far away from being a possibility, although I don’t think it will neccessarily run Galakrond or things like Mind Control, but stuff like Grandmummy into wretched Reclaimer is actually way better than it first looks.
I want to try a few different versions of Priest, from a tempo version to a full on greed effort, you could either go with a Mass Rez build or maybe a Galakrond focussed deck with Princess Talanji pulling out a board of random Priest minions, there’s also a deathrattle option with Reckless Experimenter that could be sweet.
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This card seems pretty weak. Highly vulnerable unless you summon it and then kill it yourself on the same turn. Meh.
I disagree strongly, even just playing this on-curve it’s a 3 mana piloted shredder with one less attack (you copy your opponents 2-drop as the dr) and there are many better scenarios than that.
Standalone this card is straight up bonkers, but Priest as a class may not be able to leverage this.
Playing it on curve is the only application I can see right now and then its a good play,if the opponent has a minion in play that is. But playing this on curve then you look at some sort of agro/midrange deck,a sort of zoo. I don’t think that will be good for priest but maybe.
Another application :
Turn 10 ; you play mindflayer + shadowy figure on a big opponent minion. mass hysteria; Everything die, you re let with two minions.
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Yeah Kaahrj has some sort of synergy with Mass Hysteria,
That’s why the more I think about it the more powerful this minion seems, it’s great on-curve if you just need to get some tempo on the board but it can also do some wicked shenanigans late game with SW:D , Mass Hysteria , and all Priests minion copying ability.
Has antisynergy with Mass Rez, but tbh I’ve played enough Mass Rez decks, I think a Galakrond Priest with Princess Talanji (and Seance for multiple Talanji’s!) could be decent (maybe with Reckless Experimenter too, memetastic).
Not convinced it’s going to work, but should be fun.