I hate it when Druid swarm is beat deck

Druid swarm decks being on top have been some of my least favorite times. Heck anything Druid does is good right now, treant Druid, dragon Druid, Highlander Druid, OTK Druid, is all good.

Maybe take a look at cultivation or the fact that is so easily tutored with that. 5 mana card. Maybe make the discount apply while in deck to where the 5 mana card can’t draw it?

isn’t the 3 mana card that buffs your board if you played a nature spell also insanely good ?

i feel like it ends games

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I would definitely be ok with cards that discount themselves to apply that discount while in deck.

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Oh, to make cultivation unsearchable by that card that draws 2 spells that cost 6 or more?

Alternatively, they could make cultivation only be discounted by treants summoned while it’s in your hand.

Yeah, it would also mess a bit with how paladin abuses it with things like holy wrath / order in the court.

That’s the problem. A change like that would have ramifications across the game.

I don’t think it’s a negative that paladin won’t be able to use order in the court + holy wrath for 25 damage on turn 7 in wild if Shirvallah is in their deck.

Treant druid needs massive nerfs - enough with this garbage board spam turn 4/5 win BS

The entire concept of the class is now greed. Greediest class hands down, next to Rogue and Mage.
It should just be renamed greed. Discover a 2 cost summon a 1/2 copy and get a copy for 1 mana? Greed.
Infuse a bit to draw your deck for 1 mana? Greed.
Nourish. Greed. They out greed anyone by a large margin. It’s awful.
And they run fizzle for extra greed because getting 70 mana more value than everyone else isn’t good enough.

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Treant druid is good but far from broken atm. Control decks tend to beat it very easily, like warrior and priest. It’s just that the meta is favoring it a lot right now due to the very low presence of control decks in general.

Nothing beats that deck easily.

It’s actually favored against control warrior according to VS stats.

The deck is an absolute meta killer and druid needs massive nerfs.

Because control decks are bad right now. There aren’t enough answers in the day for control decks and especially if they aren’t of the combo type.

This deck I agree is ruining the meta, not rogue though rogue could be tweaked now. But good god they are creating massive boards by turn four that don’t stop for like four straight turns

I think that optimized and well played excavate rogues beat it…

But if that deck gets nerfed due to how over-popular it is, treant druid will absolutely need nerfs to go with it.

Treant druids probably need a nerf anyway just because of how oppressive it is outside of that one matchup.

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I am going to go with this part right here. I’m all in on changes to both those decks.

The rogue excavates is just silly to draw a copy AND get a discount. Total bonkers design, but not unexpected from this group. They don’t seem to understand what makes decks good.

God pls nerf this garbage… but sadly they wont do anything till rotation cause they are lazy like that. I am so sick of druid having so much good and targeted draw. Aquatic from, 0 mana free targeted draw, ohh you actually killed 1 of my boards 1 mana draw 3, 3 mana draw 2 dragons and buff them… and thats not even all of it. I hate how you get punished even if you deal with their boards, how every turn they can summon a whole new board with buffs out of their behind. And please move treats back to 2 mana. Its so disgusting that they only cost 1 mana right now.

Almost like druid as a class always had a design problem :face_exhaling: