Battlegrounds are Stupid now

So we go from a crappy battlegrounds full of the worst things like Trinkets, Anomolys and other garbage that takes a decent strategy piece of the game to straight up RNG garbage.

To now and even WORSE battlegrounds. With the Dark Gift and Activate crap. Plus the Trinkets to make the RNG even worse. Some of this is just plain broken BS with the new hero some how getting a Tier 5 Minion on first turn while you are still tier 1. It is like the devs are in their little offices going, Hey how can we make this game so bad and so lopsided that people quit playing and we just cater to the pay to win folks.

Come on can we please get back to the basics which is what made BattleGrounds fun. Lose the trinkets for everyone, anomolys and quests for all. Lose the Dark Gift crap and lets play the game as it was made to be played before yall screwed it up!

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Battlegrounds are Stupid now

Always have been.
:astronaut: :man_astronaut:

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Played some games to see what the new updates were like. Left after 5 games . . . one game I high rolled so hard I felt guilty and quit. The other games were pretty bad as people were getting insane stuff. The mode is nothing but RNG gambling and that’s all. Nothing new from the minds at Blizzard Hearthstone once again.

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I like the new mechanics, but they did not test ANYTHING properly, when certain minions with activate can just snowball stats to triple digits in 3-4 rounds and they are T1-2… If you get 2 of those early, you get carried to T6 on a throne with people throwing flower petals at you. Otherwise…

Boringgrounds was always stupid

Gambling is the quickest way to attracting whales. It’s the same reason RNG had been ramped up so much in standard.

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Its BGs….its literally based on RNG……not sure why you act surprised they are pushing that further.

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I wasn’t surprised, it’s more disappointment than anything else. I uninstalled this morning, I will wait another couple of months to see what they come up with next. But not keeping my hopes up. Back to D4.

Kind of Surprised Hyena isn’t Temp banned yet. There’s an infinite loop with the Hyena to beat any build currently.

yeah best is WAY overtuned. Honest a couple “factions” if you want to call them that are pretty auto win once you get 1 card of their build. Beast is the worst overtuned and broken. But I can think of a couple others that scaled back

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The only part of this I disagree with is the “Catering to the pay to win folks”
I’m not even sure how they’d do that since the hero choices only have like 0.5 placement impact and the only thing you’d be paying for is a season pass to get extra hero options. Spamming re-roll tokens every match is not only dumb but doesn’t even help you since at some point your skill and way of playing the game defies the statistical “best picks” and only you know what you’d do best with.

But otherwise yes, battlegrounds has had big problems and been a little degenerate and RNG dominated for a while, but never as bad as it is now. There’s no even subtle lines into a playable comp or nuanced interactions and strategies. Every shop is a straight up slot machine pull with zero synergies because 90% of them are trash. If you don’t get a lucky early game into spoonfed satellite mechs or lobster you automatically lose. There is almost no way to navigate the shops since they’re so full of trash and no other comps are viable.

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just say you suck dregnar

And when you get an opponent who drew a minion whos dark gift is that they have over 20k in each stat, thats the kind of crap that is not fun. Thats not a dark gift because there is no trade off. if there was a negative effect for that minion then sure maybe but a single minion with 20k in each stat pretty much wins every match unless against locks or the poisionous non minion or leeroy, other than that your screwed especially if one of his augments is get a copy of any minion or once per game summon a exact copy then your just done for.

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This is a B- minus or C+ meta. It has flaws.

But it is playable.

But there have been better metas, for sure.

(I’d prefer no trinkets and no dark gifts … they are uneven and if you get a bad one it is a bit game ruining.)

You know there’s a HUGE BG patch tomorrow right?

I hope by “HUGE” you mean rolling back the entire season and starting from scratch. There’s no way in hell blizz is gonna navigate this stuff and make it playable since they don’t even play their own game and 90% of their stats come from drooling noobs or they’re gonna use their favorite excuses some more

”We know it’s crap and we know the balance is completely unplayable, and we’re not gonna do anything about it, but trust us guise, we’re watching it closely and are still waiting to see how things will develop O.O”
”We need to let the meta balance things for us ‘organically’”

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They’d never rollback to the good ol’ days where getting even one minions 1k atk/1k hp was insane. If anything they will nerf incredibly hard combo’s to get and make undead stronger because they don’t actually play the game and know what’s going on.

I’d change dark gift to free but everyone gets a minion at dark gift based on their current tribe on turn’s like 5 and 8.

Remove greater trinkets but keep lesser as they are not as game changing except a few which could be nerfed.

And then one last nerf is they could increase the cost of tier 5 and tier 6 by 1 to slow down matches.

Oh and remove bots. Thank you.

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We really should have just gone back to timewarp mechanics and definitely not trinket mechanics. This is as bad/worse as trinket + quest mechanics of before. Buddies were better than this. Anomalies were better than this. This trinket RNG casino is really the worst it’s ever been in the time I’ve been playing BGs.

#Remove trinkets
They’re complete crap and lately scripted to a completely immersion breaking degree where all they do is help you force hyper specific meta comps even harder and they absolutely know and intend it because the trinkets are designed to do exactly that. They’re not even trying to hide it. The stuff they want you to play is prescribed to you and there’s no choice involved in getting creative with the stuff you have anymore. Nuance is dead.Pivots are dead. Making the most of what you have is dead. Skill expression is ultimately dead.

See yall next season, maybe.

Haha, yes — I remember having to pivot in the previous meta a lot.

Pivoting is hard and dangerous, eventually I got it smooth.

Also, have you noticed that pirate is almost impossible to play because the animations delay your next actions?