To all those who blames rng:
At any given decision spot, given all the information available to you, are you making the best decision that will maximize your expected value (EV)? (If you don’t know what EV is look it up).
I’m certain no one is consistently doing this. Not even 10k+ mmr players. Definitely not if you’re under 8k MMR, you’re not even close to doing this. Lucky you! This means that there is a lot of room for you to learn and improve.
If you haven’t maxed out your skills yet, why keep blaming rng, something that you have no control over? Instead why not focus on improving your skills, which u have full control of? it’s not that hard, it’s actually easy…when you lose a game or a battle, just ask what could i have done better. it’s that easy.
You don’t have to be an idiot who keeps blaming RNG, and be stuck in the cycle of ignorance. It’s just sad.
Focus on something that you have control over.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we see less stupid posts blaming RNG and more posts on strategies and tough decision spots? We all can improve together. I’d love to see more people take a screenshot of a tough decision spot with some contexts and ask forum for opinions and discussions.
(ill start one tomorrow…)
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That’s what i always say about every games that involved RNG. Randomness is part of the game, all you have to do is make decision based on that.
A good exemple about that is the mage’s card “arcane missile”. It hits 3 times, random targets. Will you decide to to use it when there is only one ennemy minion with one health ? Probably, because you weighted the chances to hit the minion. But if the minion have 3 health ? Probably you won’t use arcane missile, because you know the chances to kill it are low. That doesn’t require alot of brain skill to calculate that, but it’s still “skill”. Same will apply with every single time RNG is involved in games. (unless you are playing a slot machine, THAT is a good exemple of pure RNG.)
For sure, there are games where the RNG is against you in every way, cards offered are all bad, trades are bad, hero choice is bad, but that’s also part of the game. It’s good to keep in mind that RNG have equal chance to be bad against you or another player.
It’s so easy to blame RNG when losing in a game. So as blaming lag, cat that jump on keyboard, other people cheating, etc.
After a game, we should all take a time to think about the decision we made, and how to improve it for next game. That’s how we get better, and how we climb in rank.
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I mean come on… Focus on strategy, first sentence “To all those who blames rng”. But it’s your topic, it’s a free world and I said i’ll join. And i’ll be serious to ease the mood.
So what’s your opinion on beast lately. Currently between 7.1k and 7.5k (which is far from enough to be top 200 in EU) and beast have vanished. Last time I saw one beast board which was relevant it was an AFK who went hydra + zerus and who was lucky enough to get a Mama Bear from it and snowball from there. Beast are ok till end of midgame but from there you usually tend to sell half of your board (hyena, Pack leader, any “low impact” beast) to keep Goldrinn, Hydra, Rat Pack or ironhide, hopefully have a big amalgam and a Maexxna. But even with that most of the time this kind of board fall short. I saw it a lot of times tried with Baron, and in my eyes Mama Bear is an awful card that will only work once with Rat Pack and a board full of 6/6 is just meh, but no matter the approach, this is just a top 4 deck. The lack of beast buff like a mechatooth, the possibility of your core cards getting snipe on a lucky hit, and the inability to give them DS just make them as strong as demon in the current state of BG and make me run away from them.
So do you have experienced any “original” build that can compete for a top spot ? Is beast the new demon ? I know top 4 is ok but if there is some way to improve the switch of the lategame that you have to do with beast I’ll take it. So far the best I had was to go double cleave first, one small to get those DS and the biggest next. Georges can also help a lot but when you don’t have him and the game “tells” you to go beast, I’m still looking for the best approach.
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Yeah I don’t really agree, RNG of the draw is really important. I have had days were my draw was HORRIBLE, not getting any type of synergy minions where I don’t get level up minions or get any build minions. Where no matter how I level up or try to change my strategy I don’t get anything I need. Not to mention getting horrible attack patterns, like no matter how many taunts you have up they snipe your build minions EVERY turn or your match making puts you against the top three players every turn and you just get destroyed.
That’s not skill or strategy its just bad luck and how the game is built.
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On the worst of luck and you don’t get 8th, it’s something. Never roll for synergy if you are falling behind. Anything that can improve your comp take it. I have been carried to 4th place by this 4/5 guy that give my taunt +1 attack or something. A minion I bet no one ever pick.
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@OP
I think you’re overestimating the “strategy” in this game.
You get Cobalt on 3 , congrats you go mech and win top 4.
You get early lightfang or brann, congrats, go menagerie and win top 3.
For the rest ? Meh, pretty much all other comps are bad.
Except if you get lucky with murlocs and manage to have poison/ds.
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Actually its there. In a perfect situation where all the players would have same luck with RNG, the strategy and your decisions could play almost the major role.
Played one BG because 3D printing takes several hours for something to complete.
So, Bob is handing me Murlocs. Do I really want to go Murlocs? At least Bob gave me a Tide Caller 1st this time and Warleader 2nd followed by a Cold Seer and then Bob Was really generous and handed me another Warleader and Cold Seer. Now I am pounding on people early I can. upgrade my Tavern.
Was on top of the ladder the whole game. Even got an Adapt all Your Murlocs. Gave em all poison but I didn’t have 6 merlocs I only had 4 but picked up a 2/8 beast with poison. Defeating everyone but one player.
One player has a super Amalgam. 2 Mechs with Divine shield regain divine shield with a mech is summoned. 2 matches ended in a tie and this player own all the others. The timer really flies fast when only 2 left. I need something to take out the Amalgam with Divine Shield DR summon 3 mechs before it can reactivate the Mechs with Divine Shield which kill all my poison yet live. tick tock tick tock times up!
Pfft Jeebus. Give a guy more than 15 seconds to spend the gold and look for something. In 15 seconds have to look to triples or something else or rearrange your order. Windfury attack the lowest attack? Nope didn’t work it attack his 2/8 poison he picked up. Umm lets see, tick tock tick tock times up! Pfft. Well I had a triple but the animation took up the whole 15 seconds so I don’t know what the level 6 discover was.
But this was probably the only match in the hundred or so that I played where strategy was involved in the end. My opponent was at 2 health for 5 rounds and I dropped all the way down from 35 health because I couldn’t get past those 4 minions of Mech repeat shield, super Amalgam with DR and his other blocker.
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There are murloc comp, demon comp (inferior but possible to win), beast comp. Baron + deathrattle comp. All are viable for top 1 spot.
All “off meta” boards can win against “off meta” boards.
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hmmm is 6.4k (where i currently at) off meta? i seen steamer win with baron + ghastcoiler and kaboom bots at 8k MMR too.
By off meta I mean board that isnt typical. Not rankings
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Which means no one high rolled. Such is even more particularly skill testing since everyone is drawing pretty evenly isnt it?.
Thats what I mean and thats what I have posted many times - in a perfect situation where the players are blessed by same RNG, the strategy have a chance to be almost major aspect.
which is why i replied to Krapinou in the first place isnt it? Why are we even debating when we are on the same page lol.
I thought you are implying you can win with “non-optimal” in terms of ultimate power 
board against “optimal or almost-optimal” board. (basically highroll).
Sorry, I have misunderstood you. I apologize.
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It’s Beta. It’s the perfect time to complain about the game design.
And it’s also idiotic to assume a person who complains about RNG is complaining about a loss.
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