Fair-Point Paf.
I couldn’t conceptualize a non-offensive use of wow.
It seems If both people are topdecking, sure In that case it is clear something actually above-average is going on for rarity.
Maybe like winning a 1/5 brawl or something too, ‘wow’ would be like “yea I know I got lucky I want to convey that politely with wow”
However I’m sorry would also convey that same message.
"sorry, im topdecking luckily’ although not-as-well.
But the brawl-instance of high rng hit
“sorry” would be more-realistic than “wow”.
It would be great to see other examples of where “wow” is clearly w/o debate not-offensive. Both ppl hitting back to back crazy hits, or topdecks, sure.
Yeah, that’s why they are giving us Diablo Mobile LUL.
And that’s why my Hearthstone screen keeps blurring out, and I’m paying extra for the adventure this time instead of it being included, and the new priest hero is locked behind a $80 paywall, etc. etc.
yeah but according to him, blizzard makes their decisions out of air, with out any feedback needed (like the adventure one that was because I DON’T WANT TO PLAY THE ADVENTURE TO EARN THE FREE PACKS BLIZZARD)
No. They don’t. They don’t need to do anything. They don’t need to do balance nerfs. They don’t need to offer multiple screen resolutions. They don’t need provide these forums. But all that said, you completely missed the point. Mand was simply pointing out that the dev team’s failure to give the issue fair consideration shouldn’t matter to me since he thought I said that there was no reason they could offer to convince me that autosquelch would not improve the game. I corrected him and clarified what I said: that I could not think of a reason they could give to convince me.
Why is it that so many of you are determined to stifle the conversation? If you want the discussion to end, just leave the thread. Then the discussion ends for you.
I’m content to opt out. I’d like to opt out once… until I choose to opt back in. Many players find it quite tedious to opt out 10 times a day. And worse, having to opt out multiple times per game is really irritating.
Yeah. 2k+ posts on the old forum thread, I’d be VERY surprised if at least 20-25% of them didnt belong to one person. Thats where the whole vocal minority thing comes in, towards the end of the old forums it really was just 3 or 4 people talking bumping the post count, and it was NEVER allowed to drop off the front page for more than a few hours by some… Much like this thread!
yeah, i forgot that every hearthstone player uses the forum, oh right, the anti AS were also 4 guys spamming the thread, and if they are a vocal minority, the “people will start using it and the emote system will collapse” its not a thing to worry either so, whats the matter with people asking it?
they were few people both sides, so, the quantity has nothing to do, because it just means that we are just a few people posting in the forums, thats all, you can basically say that the forums itself its a vocal minority compared to the amount of players playing the game,
Now… according with i already stablished there… True or false: The tess greymane change was reverted by a “vocal minority” because thats what a forum is, right?
If AS are a vocal minority or not, this does not affect you in any way because its a blizzard decision, not yours, and you are not putting arguments to make it believe that its something that will do a bad thing to the game, because the only one presented is that “people may leave it turned on” but AS are a minority, isnt it?
Yes but if you look at the actual playerbase numbers versus the players that use this forum, that is also a minority of players.
This isn’t the only platform that is having an AQ discussion. Reddit I know, Facebook might, probably mentioned on Twitter as well.
Now, this whole “emotes are neutral” argument is true…and false at the same time.
Places kitchen knife on the table.
The knife is neutral.
Cuts up a tomato.
Now, the knife is a cooking tool.
Stabs you with knife.
Now the knife is a murder weapon.
Emotes are the same concept - the existence of them is quite neutral. How they are used changes that neutrality.
Back to my knife example…
Picks up knife to slice the tomato.
You call law enforcement because you think I am threatening you.
Regardless of the tomato and cutting board, your brain jumps to the worst possible conclusion.
I do not have any control over your perception of me any more than one player has control over another player’s perception of emotes regardless of intent.
I see phrases like “thin skin,” “mental illness,” and “perception.”
I would like to address these things but first, a little background information.
My little sister is diagnosed with OCD. As children, I knew she was different but I didn’t understand how nor why. One day she liked bologna. The next day she didn’t.
“You ate one yesterday.”
“I don’t like it anymore!”
I learned early on that even though she did eat bologna yesterday, she doesn’t like it today. I accepted it and made her PB&J instead.
If we went somewhere, it was my job to escort her to the bathroom. I would wash my hands as many times as she did. The more I did this, the less she felt the need to wash her hands X amount of times.
I didn’t have that need, urge, or desire.
Jump to early twenties. I started working in a nursing home on an Alzheimers/Dementia unit. We had a woman who had a psychotic break and never recovered. Her one child died in the military, and the other died in a motorcycle accident.
She constantly asked about her children because in her mind, they were little kids.
I told her they were swimming at my house and my boyfriend was barbequeing for the neighborhood. She said, “Oh thank God,” and ate all of her dinner.
This is called validation therapy and we need more of it. Simply stating that “your perception of reality is false” does way more harm than good. As a matter of fact, a simple acknowledgement of someone else’s point of view can gain you more insight than simply stating they need therapy, are mentally ill, etc.
Instead of telling people to grow a thick skin, saying something like,
“Yeah, emotes can be very annoying. Is there a particular reason why they bother you?”
“They bother me because it seems like they emote spam when they win.”
“What format do you see this the most?”
It creates a back and forth and allows you to gather information and information is power. For me, emotes tilt me on ladder. Why? I don’t know. They just do - maybe I’m too competitive for my own good. Maybe I don’t want to be that a-hole that squelches every opponent. Maybe I just don’t want to acknowledge there’s a human being on the other side.
But I have learned that its only on ladder they bother me. Especially versing meme decks. It is highly obnoxious. Its like one of those, “Congratulations! You’re our 2 millionth winner” commercials that are super loud when you’re watching a movie on cable.
Totally kills my focus/mood/concentration.
“That is the point to emotes.”
Then there should be an autosquelch.
And it ends where it all began because, my perception isn’t real. Well, it may not be real to you, but its real to me.
Secondly, you alone account for the vast majority (if you dont like being called a vocal minority) of posts on the topic.
It does affect me because I see the SAME vocal minority spamming the forums with their agenda despite the absolute, irrefutable FACT their request was denied not even 2 weeks ago.
Give it a rest, you have your answer, there is nothing more to add to the discussion. Nothing new has been brought to the table by either party in this thread since that answer was given, so unless you can do so, stop already!
And you are the owner of the forums or something to not allow someone to public something in regards to blizzard and sharing his opinion with other people? maybe a lot of people don’t like your posts, are you going to stop posting now? The tess change, the naga in wild change were all made because they keep it going, people are not painting the wall of your house, they are writing what they want in a public forum in a post that says really big “AS”, its not like if they are going to a post called “Druid deck” and start spamming their agenda, like i said, you are also a vocal minority, like it or not, all this forums are.
If you are so tired of this type of threads, don’t bump it, let the pro AS say what they think and let them be there or make your own private forum and censorship the AS crowd, but this is public
Sharing and spamming are two completely different things.
Im sure they do, I will put money on that fact! But I dont spam my agenda on QoL issues which have been answered in the recent past.
Comparing balance issues to QoL issues is not a good argument. One has game play repercussions, the other doesnt. Guess which is which?!?
For someone who claims:
You sure do appear to be VERY emotionally attached to the topic, both here and on the old forums, which leads me to the conclusion that you are “in need” of it. If the above was factual, you wouldnt be one of the main offenders spamming the topic
You are going out of your way to see those posts. You are choosing to click on the thread. You are choosing to read it. You are choosing to post in it.
Lets see: Gameplay changes that can affect other users experience in good and bad ways was reverted by a minority.
a QoL change that it will not harm you according to you will never be changed by blizzard, even when it doesnt affect the rest, hell, you will even stop seeing this type of posts, you are not really smart if you can’t see that (?
Nice try with the psychological aspect but would be ridiculous that if im already defending it, not saying that im part of it, some people do feel empathy you know. Also if you feel so attached to stop the implement of AS, maybe you are one of the BM’s that people are complaining and you just don’t want that the “thin skins” can avoid you? .
sorry but i don’t like hypocrites, thats why i support the people that wants this, they don’t want to harm anybody, and because i see a lot of people against it but in the past all those people had a lot of troubles to say why they don’t want it, i wonder why masks maybe
Im not being hypocritical, simply stating the facts as I see them. Its you who is by being so emotionally attached to a topic that you, in your own words, dont even care about.
You guys dont want a discussion, you want an echo chamber of people agreeing. Dont expect me to be empathic towards those who lost that privilege by… lets just call it manipulating the facts 'cos thats just not gonna happen.
i never said you were one, i said in general, you asked the reason why im here, i have my posture, you have yours, both attached to the subject, otherwise you would just avoid it, now if you believe my reasons or not, it doesnt really matter, because even if i am in need of AS or not, it doesnt change my arguments at all, so, you take it as you please.
Little bowser, no one wants an echo chamber, at least from my part im looking someone that doesnt contradict itself to explain why does he need to shut the mouths of the people wanting this, even you contradict, because you are against it here, if you were smart enought you will support it so you dont have to see any more of this threads that annoys you so much
Other people says that people will leave turned it on by accident because reasons and it has been already debated about that and has been solved in 2 ways, first, people are calling minority to the ones wanting this, so, a minority will leave it on. Second, it has already been stablished that squelch is suposed to stay there, and AS in other way to turn it on, not replace regular squelch, and even if you let it turned on that it should not allow you to emote if you have it on, so that point is out
Now, the other point: Blizzards cost in doing it, well, that is not a bussiness of the people answering here, but blizzards one, my problem is with the people that are against it but don’t present their reasons, they present blizzards reason, if this doesn’t affect you, dont post on it, no one will die if you avoid this topic.
And your reason, well, i already gave you an answer, the best way to get what you want is, or help to accomplish it, or go and do another forum where you are a moderator and you can delete and censor this kind of posts
