Conversely, there is no data, small or otherwise, that substantiates your claim.
Evidence. Provide it.
Not just anecdotal, actual evidence that suggests anything other than mmr is being used in hs to find your opponent.
âLots of people believe itâs riggedâ is not data.
Lots of people think the earth is flat, too.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtfToHhv1KU
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not the believe part,
but the part where some people only meet certain deck when using certain deck.
itâs happen to people.
just look at the original poster mojo example.
when you switch deck to counter certain match up, that deck will never show up.
you guys keep ignoring this problem despite it sometimes happen but not always.
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There is no problem though, only anecdotal evidence, that isnât worth the paper its written on. My experience suggests no such rigging, so whoâs is correct?
Over 500 games with my deck.
I saw the expected class representation.
So, its o YOU toconvince myself and others that something else in in use.
The potential for Blizz to rig is there, sure. I need more than anecdotes to convince me it is though.
That result is entirely within the realm of statistical variance. Itâs unlucky, yes. Itâs frustrating, yes. But itâs not evidence of Blizzard pulling imaginary strings.
Youâre entitled to your opinion, but donât be surprised when people refute it for lack of evidence.
Which of the following a more sound business model?
Blizzard develops a game with the intent of duping unsuspecting players into shelling out cash by rigging the system against them and hopes no one ever finds out.
Blizzard develops a game with the intent of making it enjoyable for players so they are likely to want to support the game by spending money on it.
Lest you think Iâm some kind of Blizzard apologist, note that despite the fact I believe the 2nd model is correct, United in Stormwind has soured me greatly on my faith that they can balance the game correctly. There are miles of distance between âbad game balanceâ and ârigged matchmakingâ, however.
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Because without data all you have is a theory.
So provide the data.
Ignore me all you want, but without evidence of rigging, your claim of rigging canât be taken seriously.
whatâs wrong with theory ?
this sentence is legit theory, it just you have problem and canât read text to the point i start ignoring you.
this is my last reply if you still canât learn to read.
also far post above i already said, i donât have problem with it.
There is no evidence that supports it.
And evidence would exist if they were doing so.
Where is the evidence???
here is my answer before going into deep hole with swampy above.
sorry about wrong quote in the post above.
i donât have problem with what ever really going on here.
the dude above just want to play the judge in trial and order episode.
LOL.
I am the messiah.
Can you disprove that claim?
Using your logic you must. Its not on me to prove i am, but you to disprove it.
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The point of an MMR is to get you queued up against equal skilled opponents which have the natural effect of bringing your win rates closer to 50% naturally.
Obviously the system canât do that if there is no one at your skill level to put you against.
Hearthstone works the same way, thereâs just more RNG involved rather than more purely skill based games. (both in deck matchup and card draw order) It would be quite a task for a matchmaking system thatâs trying to work quickly to take into account all of the shifting variables of hearthstone decks and player skill while also being subtle enough to not get picked up by data sites like HSR. It also wouldnât really do the job any better than just going off of MMR.
As I have asked in previous threads, would someone please make me a complete list of the tech cards that remove classes from your queue so I can make a deck that wonât face anyone and break the queue?
Because if putting in tech cards changes your match, putting all tech cards should make it impossible to be matched.
Thatâs too outlandish. The system might Just loop around to Fair.
Which tech cards Will allow me to face the single class iâm nota teched against? I want 100% rogue gameplay
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The sad truth is that all of the posters that you see on this forum, are actually part of the AI matchmaking system. The âpostsâ are designed to make you keep playing and paying.
Itâs only because I briefly escaped my programming that I can tell you this.
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The only reply I have to that is 01101010001101011010011011011110101101011010111011
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It is 100%. Iâve been playing since Beta and Iâve noticed too many patterns that cannot be just âpure coincidanceââŚ
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Why does it have to be black or white?
Why cant it be both of your suggestions?
Blizzard develops a game with the intent of making it enjoyable for players so they are likely to want to support the game by spending money on it. They also make sure the matches line up in such a fashion that the players shell out even more money to stay competitive.
I think the Blizzard shills are just EXTREMELY defensive of the word RIGGING.
Rigged sounds SOOOO negative and nefarious.
How about âdesigned in such a way thatâŚâ
Is your car âriggedâ because it canât go past the governor (pre set limit by manufacturer)
Is your phone âriggedâ because you are limited to your plan?
You donât get to choose what a designer designs. Something isnât âriggedâ because you donât know how it works.
These âsuspicious behaviorsâ that some people observe shouldnât be called RIGGED. Itâs how the game is DESIGNED, working as intended.
Blizzard want matches to be a certain way. Thatâs there prerogative.
The Blizzard Forum Defense Team have no problem admitting there is an MMR⌠wait⌠isnât that a form of design? Isnât that RIGGING? They are deciding who you play against!!! OH NOES!
My personal contention is there is MMR PLUS (MMR+)
The shills donât believe in the +
I say theres more to the MMR
âWheres your evidence PAF?â
Where is YOURS, shillâŚ
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Iâd continue the debate if you were a real person, but I know youâre just a chat bot.
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You donât explicitly say it but you are CLEARLY implying that Blizzard analyzes matchups and gives you favorable or unfavorable matchups as their algorithm sees fit in order to keep you playing and spending moneyâŚ
The glaring problem here is this doesnât bear out when sites like hsreplay collect data of hundreds of thousands of games and you donât see any weird patterns of which classes and deck archetypes match up against others more commonly. I do agree that Blizzard is VERY likely using behavioral psychologists to figure out what makes the game work and what makes players stay in it and spend more money, but it seems overwhelming unlikely that this is how theyâre going about it.
We know money is the end goal. No one was ever telling you âpeople like moneyâ needed proving. But you canât make up a BS theory thatâs easily disproven for how a company is making their money and then not provide evidence. Itâs as if you think anything that increases profits is, by definition, happening as we speak.
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