We have no damage, no movement, no shields, no life or shields regen. Why?
How are we supposed to fight ghosts who can’t be hit while they can damage us, toons that can go untargetable, toons that can bomb us form another screen, toons the can continually regenerate life and shields even as we hit them, and all those toons have mobility. All we have is a shield with a 20 or 30 second cool down. This is pathetic how bad it is for the crusader. This makes no sense.
How can other mellee classes get all the life and regen to the point where we have to kill them 4 or 5 times for them to die.
For reference I’m an almost 9k sader, 8-10 rank regular gems, 6,000 - 7,300 secondaries, 8-10 rank legendary gems all 4-5 star, running 4 pcs mounts, with a 5 stack savior class remanents. I run 2 essences just for shields and I can barely keep up with toons that are half my stats.
This is really starting become a problem where it seems like the crusader is having a larger strife than other classes. Something here is not making sense.
Maybe it’s the new MM, but lately it’s been really bad how easily I am killed and the lack of damage I can produce.
I’m curios if any other crusaders feel this way?
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No, you are not alone. Everytime that feedback window appears, i point this out.
BARB - has lifesteal, no damage when at 1HP undying that is auto triggered and has anti-cc to get out of a sticky situation. Now they even have 75% absorb shield on top of everything else.
DRUID - tanky, knockback and has a lot of absorb shield and heals.
Saders get what - horse with nerfed damage. no auto trigger bubble, can’t even bubble when juggled to death by other classes. the list goes on.
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I’m trying to figure out why blizz hates the crusader so much.
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Cruz may be the most “balanced” class as we always need to make a choice between DPS, Tank and Support.
We cannot really do 2 at the same time. Each piece of equipment push us away from the other 2 roles.
Not so much self mobility solution aside from horse (lost of tankiness or skill dps) and support banner (loss of dps). No selfheal but (at least) shield generator with a dps cost (-25% dmg). Heavy skill dps but easy to CC till death, low tankiness and no mobility. Cc solutions costs a lot of dps or tankiness.
A lot of our essences lack a little something to make cruz more efficient. Cruz can shine as a support class and a bit as a tank (not the best place today) but hardly solo (except as a chaser on horse).
This cannot be said for some classes… that seem not to follow some basic rules of Golden Triangle (2 properties at the cost of the 3rd) and rock-paper-scissor.
Best defense early game was block chance, now with CHC solutions, it does not worth it anymore. Evasion and untargetable have too few counters. Healing is costly to counter for a sader (6p blood, reforge on primary attack, enchant on primary attack but no essence). Cc are way less effective due to cc imunities, and anti-dash are useless on other dash-class as they have anti-anti-dash solution… i hope that we’ll get some form of balance on this.
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I get that we are internally balanced having to really select essences between damage or support.
The problem is that neither of those do any good as we can’t stay alive long enough to make a difference in either one of those scenarios. We have zero ability to combat any other character at the moment. Monks, barbs and necros with 1/2 my stats are killing me left and right. Barbs are one hitting me from across the entire screen. BG is no longer fun or interesting, it’s just pathetic.
We currently have no damage, no mobility, no cc or cc immunity, no tankiness, and no anti cc ability. If its not bad enough that we get no shield or life regen like every other melee class now we have to deal with fear & silence. All we have is a 3 second shield with a 20 or 30 second cool down witch by the way does not stop any cc and it does not auto proc.
List out other toons pvp essences and what they can do with regard to shields, regen, anti cc or cc, untargetable, ghosts and auto proc, then compare it to the crusader. The crusader is just plain trash for PVP. It is a usless class, we offer nothing. Can’t do dmage, can’t shield, can’t move, can’t CC and now with the Vithus team nerf we offer no benefit.
Blizz why do you hate the crusader so much. Whoever is in charge of the crusader team and the entire team working on the crusader needs to be moved somewhere elese. Please make them play bg as the crusader so they can see how terrible it is.
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Long cooldowns, a sluggish horse that sometimes even stops moving for no reason at bg, a tiny 3 sec shield with 30 sec cooldown, essences that brake your horse and dismount you, charms at vanguard and skills from war that dismount you, using bandages that dismount you (ofc always with hard cooldown till next horse use).
No selfheal of any kind, skills that cant even touch classes anymore (necro, monk), a tank horse that takes away most of your dps and cant even tank while all other toons can happy one hit. A helmet essence that can be used for a horse dps build but burns yourself while using, sader is really the only class where you can kill yourself or waste a savior.
The famous circle build, without cc, healing and movement which turns the game into slow motion while everyone is killing you with lightspeed (extreme funny to play after horse build). There are sure more issues but sadly nothing will change, we get even a nerf with the new vithus adjustement which was a very important set for sader.
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Any one uses the electric dash horse?
I feel like it still get slowed down by wiz arcane wind despite being immune to slow effect.
The subtility would be that this “slow” immunity does not cover “chill”, “frozen” or “pull”… ?
Bumping horse is supposed to knock airborne ennemies but when you compare this with barb/druid/bk/wiz/mk, it is kind of embarrassing…
- They knock us airborne like 10 yard up when we just push them 1-2 feet.
- They can do it repeatedly whereas we get a 3-5 seconds cd.
- CC immunity charge in BG is the same whereas we get stuck for a longer time.
They finally implement a penalty to wraith form but with 60% increase speed… just for the record, necros have a cd reduction based on run distance 
so less damage but more uptime to CC the hell out 
Only 1 essence and base skill are concerned based on patchnote… so let see the result. Sader have penalties for a few bonuses but are still subject to damage and CC 
All range class can outspeed the horse with stances and dashes.
I feel that i do not hit that much… questionning either evasion/accuracy, untargetability, hitbox (electric dash/FotH-dash) or iframe linked to dash and speed.
And finally, Fine Misfortune seems to be able to target necros in wraith form and summons that are supposed to be either untargetable or immortal 
leading to waste a 6s cd skill at almost each time.
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Just wait t gets worse.
WE GOT ZERO BUFF OR REWORK ON THE NEW UPDATE.
Blizz here is an idea.
Rework congration of light so that its the same duration/cooldown as untargetable or the wraith form. Let the crusader have anti cc during congregation of light, just like the monk, necro and barb. We still don’t have the mobility these classes have but at least the duration/cooldowns on taking damage will be simialr. Then if you realy feel like being generous allow congregation of light to auto proc at 5-10% life while it’s avalaible. You know, how you already allow the brab to auto proc. It’s not like we are asking for anything you don’t already do for the other classes. Why is it so difficult for the crusader to get just similar type of buffs the other classes have.
We have a 26 second cooldown and a 42% damage reduction. It’s kinda insane when you think about the PVP strife. We are at over 100% damage reduction, we can’t move, and we can’t regen life or sields.
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