Wow - new endgame loop - thanks Blizz!

So, new endgame loop following the patch.

  1. start an alt

  2. go first part of seasonal quest

  3. but scrolls (59 of them about 15k ash)

  4. level up rep

  5. get spark

  6. delete character

  7. repeat steps 1-6 until all ash used up

  8. gamble all your sparks till you get the mythic you want

Mind numbingly boring - but more rewarding and efficient then boss grinding - recon a new mythic every 30mins but it most likley be a lot of melted hearts!

Good going blizz - how can you make things worse with each patch this season?

Just buff drop rates already and you make a lot of people a lot happier!

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Either an exclamation mark is missing, or a “y”. :stuck_out_tongue:

hey, thanks for the math!

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why doesnt blizzard just hand everyone every mythic upon logging in by now?

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Because they dumb.

Still…

If it takes 30 min per mythic gambling eith no effort put in then it does make little sense why we don’t just get them all for free

Honestly, i think even then people would complain because they “are forced to log in to get all mythics”.

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I think you miss the point - people are also going to go the most efficient route - especially when there isn’t actually a route that feels fun and rewarding - by all means give me a reasonable grind in which i can hope to finally finish my build that doesn’t involve spending real money to buy the items I need.

Let’s be clear, anyone defending the current loot situation is actively supporting real money trading for items in D4

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I absolutely support RMT, because there is probably no way to fix it unless you completely disable any form of trading. I don’t engage with trading at all, but people like the feature.
If people are willing to waste money on that, good for them. Same for MTX. Who am I to judge people for what they do with their cash?
I will continue enjoying the game with the perfectly fine drop rates that it has at the moment, and I am certainly not going to make boring alts “for efficiency”. Glad people have the option if they want to punish themselves though.

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It’s a sound point worthy of their attention.

Even just the boss mats to farm… where are they to come from. Same question.

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How indeed. What are they even doing?

Have you been crying yourself to sleep trying to respond to all of the negative posts this season? :rofl: What a dumpster fire.

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Yea sorry. Big disagree. Im not spamming alts for mythics. Heck, im at 10 Mythics by now.

Also, what does RMT have to do with mythics now? you cant trade sparks or mythic items.

Anyway - d4 has no rare items at all and if people claim otherwise they clearly never touched arpgs.

god, season released on the 29th. I got my necro and rogue geared to the teeth now.

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I will get my mythics the oldschool way. By doing Lair bosses. :dragon:

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And there is no reason not to.

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But looking at all the Andariel keys… :see_no_evil:

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They are probably saying RMT is related to mystic because RMT can expedite the process of obtaining mystic.

Currently, the best way to obtain mystic other than reputation spark is farming Belial. If you can RMT and buy a ton of Belial mats from dupers, then it becomes much easier to find mystics. You just have to spend the time to farm Belial.

Belial farming also happens to give you a lot of ash. So now you can farm Ash and convert it to scroll and have an alt complete the reputation board for free spark.

So while RMT will not directly get you mystic items, it will make it easier by many factors.

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true, fair explanation. Rmt will always have a form of effect on online games.

I just extremely disagree when people try to say that d4 has low drop rates lol. Like really, some people bring that up EVERY season. Heck we even had people in s7 complaining about drop rates.

Rmt is an excuse to those people to bring that topic up, while in reality, they just want everything handed to them.

lol yea ^^

I mean i never had an issue with andie, but now with the boss changes id also like if her effect party would be dialed down at least a tiny bit ^^

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And this is why streamers and youtubers and people that play “efficiently” should never talk about anything about the game

Season 1 ? - Repeat “Sarat’s Lair” from dusk till dawn
Season 2 ? - Bloodhunt till death
Season 3 IDK cause I almost/barely played
Season 6 ? - Find the most broken things and abuse them till death (ofcourse the management was complicit in this)
Season 8 ? - Congrats

You’ve found ANOTHER way to bore yourself (and other people) to death

As for the devs ? - this is why “Diablo is a game about loot” should be thrown out of the window, deep down under the oceans, crushed under the eternal pressure of magma and suffer under endless fires, and forever forgotten

Game design around rewards (or reward-centric if you like) is - just as proven yet again, TOXIC, DISHONEST, and obviously as proven within 2 years of experience - kills creativity before it even hatches the first day

First: The number of D4 players who watch streamers is like a drop in a pond. The pond as a whole doesn’t.

Second: if any rando finds a ‘most efficient way’ to farm something, and posts it online (aka reddit), a few tens of thousands of impressions later, you get the same pattern… some fraction of the player base replicating this - and most of them not.

Conclusion: your beef isn’t with “streamers”, it’s with the Internet. You could completely ignore the small fraction of players you’re referring to, who make use of the Internet to share game tips (been happening for 20+ years), and your enjoyment would change.

I’m sure I’m misunderstanding this… but on the face of it you’re describing 99% of games.

It is the myth of no matter how bad or scarce or repetitive or exhausting the content itself is, if the whole gameplay loop is about achieving a reward then is all good

In your case (and @OP’s case for that matter) that means instead of increasing the drop rate for the GG items that represent 0.00001% of loot perhaps find a better way (or expand the ways) to use the rest of them ? :person_shrugging:

That’s the difference between focusing everything around the “shiny object” on the highest branch and genuinely care about the game’s health (and therefore fun to play it) overall