What do Eternal Players have to look forward to?

yes. i get it. the problem though, which is what i’m trying to convey and it seems not to get through, is that even if you are emotionally attached to that bunch of pixels, nothing changes the trivial truth they are a bunch of pixels you are keeping in the “tutorial”. that’s after all the chest of illusions, eternal realm.

and in the end if you keep forever “alive” a bunch of pixels (let’s say a female sorc named whatava) in eternal realm or put in stash her belongings, reroll another identical sorc named the same in season, bring it to same or higher level with same skills, and then end of season in eternal realm add to her gear some items you had on previous deleted one… you are still having whatava in front of you, down to the last byte and bit. and that’s still just a bunch of pixels, we are talking of. not a real being. the only difference being the whatava you’d have played in season, faced the real world. whilst the one you were so affectionated to in the eternal realm… no matter what, it remained at best a demo character, stuck in a demo.

all this display of affection to it, sounds like someone claimed we should at all costs be allowed to keep our server slam or beta characters, since hey, affection!.. come on. it was a beta. it was a test. nothing. not the real deal. not the real character. i know, each one their own, but what would you do, if you ever played hc and your precious beloved character died? try and imagine that, if you think affection is a thing.

hey, that’s an idea, actually. think you care about those pixels indeed? wanna prove it to yourself? play hc. not even seasons. that’s going to be actually a real new degree of content, even if it’s the same, you’ll discover quickly it’s an entirely different beast. that will give you plenty of reasons to play much longer you ever figured you would. and trust me: you’ll never run out of characters slots ever, if you really play those characters trying to improve em as you say.

do that, you’ll be a very happy player for a very long time (albeit with some mourning stages each now and then but hey, that’s going to be good too).

I think trophy list is going to be a real b*tch, just like it was for D3. So I’ll be working on the platinum with eternal characters until I get bored. If a new character creation will happen to coincide with the new season all the better.
Also, afaik, seasons won’t take too much of your time - about a week or so with a new character. May as well do them if you’ve nothing else to play. And since they will last for 3 months you can play other games in the meanwhile, nobody’s forcing you to grind it every day. Take your time, don’t burn out, don’t let FOMO get to you.

D4 has capstone dungeons at 50 and 70 to get to the next tier. Beating those is like beating normal and nightmare in D2/original D3. I get that you don’t want to grind without a campaign, but there will be tons of quests and events and NM dungeon content to work on (and hellfire events) beyond the end of the campaign. We have no idea how long those things will carry you, but I’d be surprised if they don’t take a significant amount of time for each character. Even if you just beat every dungeon and quest with each character, that’s likely a lot of play. Plus the paragon boards are cool part of creating a character that you would miss out on if you stopped playing at the end of the campaign.

Being able to replay the campaign on higher tiers is an interesting suggestion. I’m not sure if they’ve set things up in a way that makes that easy (since campaign progress is tied to certain unlocks) but I also don’t see why that wouldn’t work at least for the post-tutorial campaign stuff if they put a little effort into it. I recommend make a thread or tweeting at them with that explicit suggestion to get their eyes on it.

The amount of new content being added at each season is not going to substitute for 2 new playthroughs of the campaign on WT3 and WT4. So even if they add it all to eternal, I’m not sure that solves your problem.

If you take 9 seasons (+preseason) to create 10 characters and manage to play them all fully during those seasons, that will take you until like Oct 2025. I guarantee there will be more character slots and tons of other stuff that has made its way into eternal by then. I also expect the expansion will have come out by then, adding classes.

Also, since each class is far more complex than just “male” or “female”, there’s value to playing all the different builds of a class, meaning at least 2-4 more plays with different characters of each class. I think there’s way more game here than D3 at launch and plans for way more support, which will trickle back to eternal as appropriate.

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An amazing Diablo game that will provides hundreds of hours of content and future releases of content.

I feel like these posts are somewhat whiny, like the rich kid whos daddy only buys them 1 rolex for their 15th birthday and not 5.

You are getting a solid game.

Just play each season with a new class, then you can try the first 4 season. And you’ll end up with one of everything in eternal realm.

Maybe if you try it, you’ll like seasons and understand why people enjoy leveling new characters.

If you want to “beat” Diablo 4 , you should experience and finish the game as each class. For your Halo/Every Difficulty example. That’s the closest you can get to “100%”. There are class specific things(Quests like the Druid passives) to do as well so there will be new content as well as learning those class systems and abilities.

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you get to look foward to min maxing to the extreme, pushing all 5 classes to the best you invisioned them to be.

They can look forward to being able to perfecting their character. Very unlikely that you will be able to attain a perfect character during a season. The power ceiling in eternal is higher.

Haha! I’ve been told that before. Ironically, my favorite anime is Sailor Moon.

I Believe in you :wink:

I also wanted to mention that the NM dungeon-helltide grind to be able to beat the level 100 capstone is much more like grinding Meph or Pindle to beat able to be Baal on Hell, except far less repetitive. It isn’t an infinite loot chase with no point except seeing the numbers go up. There’s a concrete challenge to defeat (and more of them to come with each season).

Following the latest seasonal ARPG trends with D3, PoE, Immortal, etc…

Diablo 4 will likewise become a game people play for 3 to 4 weeks each season, and then drop to go play another game until the next season. ARPGs are designed for short attention spans, who don’t care about holding onto their characters. They get in, grab the seasonal cosmetics or whatever and leave.

The Eternal Realm is a retirement realm. It really serves no purpose.

D4 and similar ARPGs are all about unlocking cosmetics - cosmetics are the ONLY things that carries over from your characters. And that why there’s a big cosmetic store for D4 as well.

In fact, I’m not even sure if the in-game salvage cosmetics carry over, or just the store/battlepass ones.

You’re not playing as a hero. You’re playing as a dressing room.

(note - I would rather we have a persistent MMO-ARPG, like Lost Ark’s format, but this is what we are getting for D4. We are dressing room warriors.)

It is the same, just some people are saying that they’re going to keep all their characters

about a month of fun until hopelessly out of content.
But you know a month of fun…I will take that and be happy then move on.

You have content staggered by 3 month interval’s to look forward to.

The game isn’t designed around eternal realm. And I don’t personally understand why anyone would keep playing after they have gg gear. Game gets boring for me after that. Nothing like a reset economy and reset ladder. That’s what they’re catering to. Just how it is.

Wrong, it serves as a place to min/max your characters.

No thanks! Lost Ark is straight up trash.

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The question is - How long do you think it will take to get to level 100, complete the entire story line, including side quests, dungeons, world bosses, statues, as well as farm your end game gear ?

It will be a long journey by which stage im sure the first season will be finished or close enough to that the eternal realm will absorb its beneifts, which you can then also enjoy ??

Play D4 and clear all content until Elden Ring DLC arrives, then stick to Elden Ring.

The devs stated season will only have side stories. Main story will be served by expasions.