Vanilla D3 > D4

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Coming from D2 / D2R, D3 game play was very clunky. No skill trees, no mana steal on hit mechanics, overly bright rainbow colors, and most skills were throttled by cooldown timers. The result was 5 seconds of high DPS followed by 15+ seconds of auto-attack, rinse and repeat. The game play SUCKED compared to its predecessor. I felt like I was playing a downgraded game instead of a newer version. Even the D3 lead director was having flame wars with D2 fans on twitter claiming players did not know what they wanted in D3, but he did. Yeah sure buddy…

D3 matured quite a bit since the good old days, but I could never bring myself to reload it after hopping onto other games that provided much more enjoyable time sinks (STO, Division 1+2, etc).

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Yeah man, in Vanilla D3 you didn’t even have to worry about itemization, because items never dropped.

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D4 needs some work, but vanilla D3 was BAD bad.

There were no itemization, no builds. Remember when the only legendary item that dropped were the pants that occasionally farted?

Vanilla D3 was so horrible that playing HC and dying was the only way it kept me going (I was a big time Diablo nerd that I refused to not play it).

However, and by RoS it was great.

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100 percent. It was a lot of fun from the start

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Sorry for not reading the thread, but I agree with the title.

Even though Jay Wilson was an arrogant ****, his vision was ok. The game was terribly executed and I was disappointed because the game wasn’t like D2, but I still enjoyed D3 vanilla.

It was a good challenge with a Diablo theme. I started to slowly like it more and more, until everything was changed. Too bad I made it only to Act 3 in the true vanilla.

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I do miss the ROS D3 vendors. When I play D3, I am always excited to get back to town and see what kinds of things I can buy from the various vendors. They are extremely useful.

In this game the vendors will have like 3 items and none of them will be worth buying. On top of that, things are so expensive in D4.

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Sounds like a Diablo 2 thing.
Normal Andy, Nightmare Andy, Hell Andy.

D4 took vibes from D3 instead of D2, so thats why what we got is now.
D4 got some fetish andy with chaining people, bondage ae things.

D2 Andy wasn’t that fetish, doesn’t go bondage people, basically fear me, very nasty poison effecting coming out. Super fast (not like D4 super slugish Andy), hits hard.

Basically D2 ANdy is like Butcher but Andy style, Its very scary being chased by D2 Andy.

D4 Andy, its just some fetish fight, bonadge and really?

D4 is defiant a product of D3 vibes.

If it was D2 vibes, you’d have a lot more fit, good looking mobs coming after you. Not no big belly corpse walkers that explode, big belly drowned.

Wheres the rogues? The rogues as in rogue encampment type mobs? (D2 vibes, D3 I don’trecall, probably doubt it that they had these mobs)
Corrupt Rogue
Corrupt Rogue Spearwoman
Corrupt Rogue Archer

Nah D4 is D3 product.
Big belly dudes, not women, dudes only bigbelly ones.
Then story with fetishes. Not reallygood ones either.
Sluggish andy.
Looks like a bit thicker than D2 Andy, D2 Andy hits different in a good way.

Thinking about D4 bondage fetishes,
Andy wants to bondage you
Lillath goes for the bondage.

What is D4 doing? This aint no Diablo theme, this some weird theme. Probably some continuation theme from D3.

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I was 31 when it was released and I loved it. I still play it every season. It must be awful to be an adult like you. :slight_smile:

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Literally ANY GAME > D4

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Ever heard of Hades, or better yet, Torchlight? Those are “cartoony” games.

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I enjoyed D3 at launch except that the game was tuned around the auction house. That made drop rates abysmal.

I hated that they nerfed Inferno. It was a challenge and I wanted to beat it.

That would actually be a fun Season 29 for Diablo 3. Vanilla Diablo 3 minus the huge bugs. Leaderboard is based on killing Diablo in Inferno by date. If they can somehow fit Crusader and Necromancer and Act 5 into there too, that would be even better. But that might be too difficult for a Seasonal theme. But maybe Vanilla D3 as it was would be doable.

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I COMPLETELY agree. I had a lot of fun with RMAH. I made quite a bit of money. And I was able to optimize my own gear through trading other players easily. I could use my profits to buy items I needed. It was very fun to have a purpose for picking up items that you could not use on your own character. It’s an unpopular opinion, so I usually keep it to myself. Glad to see I’m not the only one, though.

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Serious garbage… just … .complete and utter nonsense

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Vanilla Gauntlet is better than d4. It has a theme, clear classes, balanced skills, and no stupid quest. The objective was simple. Live and kill things. Make it to the next floor.

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Vanilla D3 had the RMAH and trading with friends, of course it was better.

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Totally disagree. vD3 had zero endgame vs the various activities D4 has. Save your lame and tired no endgame argumrnts because you don’t like or don’t find the rewards exciting.

One can easily SSF good gear to clear everything in a timely manner as opposed to the many who had to rely on trading. D4 has far more build diversity than vD3 and you can rather easily solo the hardest difficulty compared to Inferno.

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I would say about equal. I liked the skills in D-3 significantly more, but D-4 has more content. (not amazing content more more)

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Likely becuse this was released not finished.

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I’m still playing D4, so that says a lot. It’s basically just extended story mode w/o D3 endgame. so single player D4 is obviously pretty decent :wink: D3 single player had its moments but it was like a 2 hour thing lol.

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Plus seeing all the drops and prices they went for on the auction house really added a “lets go play to try and get some of these drops!” incentive and then a dopamine release when one such item did indeed drop. This was all at launch, and the overcomeable difficulty which so many casuals complain about as a bad thing was awesome as well.

All of this is completely lacking in D4 and because that dopamine factor is missing entirely, it would actually take far more effort to fix D4 than it would to fix D3.

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