Unpopular Opinion (?) - I Don't like doing Pits

Profane mindcage elixir just increases the Helltide enemies levels by 10, and they drop more cinder shards, so technically they will give you more exp since they are higher level.

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Don’t quote me on this (I am not the best for sure :))
In Season 4 - first goal is hit 100 ASAP - best way of exploiting mindcage buff and every single chest opening in Hell tide (btw don’t waste your time on stupid rituals lol)
Second thing never forget to run under best exp buff you have access (8% this season)
Don’t pass within hell tides tree of whisper quests (only as a side thing because of mind cage buff).
Next you going to do mix lower end Pit runs and NM dungeons for glyph leveling. I’d estimate (for necro) once you got semioptimal gear and masterworked everything to level 3 - you should be able steamroll over NM80 and now is the time to get all your glyphs to 21 (and get shards for Rift)
Once you done with glyphs - start doing Pit push … I’d say if you are limited by run speed only than push higher otherwise you need find ā€œsweet spotā€ in Pit level where 1 run take ~4 minutes and milk it
Occasionally, you will need to visit Hell tide (getting gold is a problem) to collect ALL legendary and sell them and utilize all unique at Blacksmith (for matts)
This tactic will bring you with very little efforts to the running Pit level 60 or so

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a lot more exp :wink: and indirectly because of cinder shards you will get access to the crap load of chests (each cherry pop - a lot exp)

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It’s good to see this game finally has some kind of gameplay loop people can engage with. It only took a whole damn year.

I’m more hyped for what’s coming after this though.

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To be most accurate here - fastest classes for speed leveling are those that have massive AOE abilities or/and massive fast recycling spike damage. Necro-minions with Army of the Darkness just do that

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Btw … save your holy bolts portions for Pit runs - you can say thank to me later :wink: for the Hell runs use momentum portions … great for fast covering large distances while hell literally breaking loose on you with mindcage buff :wink:

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I’m addicted to those holy bolts everywhere, especially when the whole group has them it’s just pure chaotic fun.

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Well I like it too … until read about how holy bolts works for Pit run … (I changed my farming ground from Pit 40 to Pit 70 because of it)

I thought it was literally just things died and bolts shot out.

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I guess no one likes… its boring as hell.

Mike Tyson said once that Cus told him that discipline is doing something you hate like you love it.
So get to loving the Pits!

Personally I enjoy them but I wish there would be more open spaces ones. It’s annoying doing a 90+ where things can really hurt happening all in a teeny, tiny, tight corridor lol.

some effects are triggered by attack, say you have 20% chance for lucky hit than if you attack something 5 time you have at least 1 lucky hit… each bolt consider to be attack and whatever effects you have on your gear and you wish to trigger them as often as possible … holy bolts will do just that. For the necro this complementary to the CE (corpse explosion). All in all - trash cleaning will happen notably faster

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yeah getting unkillable echo of Lilith aren’t very funny

I’ve gotten as high as 74 in the Pit as Rogue without dying with some remarkably mediocre gear but as the rewards don’t seem to increase apace and I don’t play video games to be competitive, I play them to relax and have fun, I don’t see much any point in continuing down this long road to inevitable failure. Think I’ll Masterwork my few decent pieces to 12, try to kill a Tormented Boss for the completion thingy and then the rest of the time I spend playing in Helltides because at least they’re sort of fun. Pointless already but still sort of fun.

A necro should be able to do it naked and just the bugged pot

but ofc, theres no point in rng bosses ruined runs, stuff that istantly kills you for no reason, very hard to avoid, playing 100 miles away from them.
also, i saw a lot of people talking about defenses, on paper it makes sense, i think they don’t know what they talk about because no amount of defense can save you, so it is actually better to cheese dmg, not good design.

Getting us back on track, I agree with that statement. And the fact that absolutely nobody is complaining not to have to farm exclusively Whisper Bounties for summoning mats is proof of that: people want alternative routes to get to that same result.

We’re all happy to see blue items drop in Helltides, dungeons etc. Even if it’s at a lower rate than actual Whisper caches or farming NMDs, it’s still a huge improvement. So they shoulddefinitely explore doing the same for other activities like glyphs and masterworking.

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GTFO then , if WoW , Diablo II or Diablo III is not your games of Blizzard (that includes Warcraft RTS and Diablo 1) …WTF are you doing here wanting this IPs to become an arcade game . Some of us passed years playing arcade games back in 80 and 90s and loved the RPG and ARPG mechanics because they was DIFFERENT . You just pretend to change a genre . People like you ruin the game and the genre . Go play all the levels of ā€œ1942ā€ in some arcade emulator (without saving) and bask in the glory i did that with 25 pesetas back in 1989 .

You know that Baldurs Gate 3 is a massive success even adding the Larian turn-based fights , right? , and it is a massive success because they passed people as you , arcade lover . If i want action and one shoots in some kind of ā€œRPGā€ i have like dozens of Looter Shooters to play .

I did this in few days almost ungeared . Took me MONTHS in Diablo III 1st season reach level 80 GRIFT .

https://youtu.be/oEcDlQeBPmM?si=Bn9Zr8mj7j6vf7fo

I did it because a) is one of the 4 chosen specs able to do it b) i was lucky in the boss-arcade game it has become this thing .

I loved this game during one whole year because it was like an ARPG . After 1 week of Season 4 i uninstalled for the 1st time because i noticed fast it is the arcade game that OPTIONAL Uber Lilith used to be . Always talking about The Pit new high-end .
I was a HUGE lover of GRIFTS of the 1st seasons in Diablo III … but this is an insult to them .
Anyway the thing that made me uninstall was not even that , after all i am lucky enough of have one of my characters in the 4 chosen tier . I grow tired when i felt my other necro , the blood one , completely useless for high-end . I invested most of the time since the Season 4 started , in rework her to make her good again (good , not OP) , it was IMPOSSIBLE . I wasted more time reaching Pit level 61 on her than Pit level 85 in my Summonmancer , that i did without effort .
THAT made me uninstall , i dont accept to play the ā€œseasonalā€ OP thing . Thats ARCADE , again . I have a lot of characters and i wanted them to work good-average … not completely useless : for me useless is when they cant reach Pit level 61 even clearing the gauntlets in 5 mins or less … but then they cant end it because the bosses HP and the moronic arcade mechanics) . My reworked Blood Surge necro takes like 10 mins in kill a T 100 NMD boss (level 154?) without ads… even UBISOFT can balance better .

agreed and lets be real pits are amazing overall. they just messed up with the bosses. they added shadow damage attacks that ignore your resist. thats a very bad idea and it feels cheap. they really should have known better i expect better but hey maybe they just bandaided and thought it was okay. very very very bad idea.

the thing about pit - i don’t actually understand why do we need it except for artificual prolong of seasonal playtime?
Same trash content as D3 Grs. Now it’s not stones but mats cuz they already put their stupid stone system in nmds and called it glyphs.
No loot at the end, terrible balance class wise and build wise. You need a purpose for doing something - trash masterowking is a not a goal, cuz it is again a timegating system.
People should start to realize - you don’t need to play a game cuz you need to ā€œenchant your gear or farm matsā€ you need to play a game cuz it’s interesting and there is nothing interesting in pit clear.