What TB build are you running. First time w a rogue and having a difficult time
Looks like the blizz fan boi lying again to prevent the rogue class from getting buffs, wonder what his real main is and why hes jealous of the rogue getting any attention
Buffed???
Rogue is currently one of the strongest classes in the game…
I would know, I have a lvl 100 & currently leveling another which is lvl 66.
Look, I’m sorry you suck, but it’s got nothing to do with the class.
The biggest supplement for rogue to counter siphoning strikes nerf is stolen vigor aspect using momentum and while leveling the heal per close enemy is actually busted.
That power in general is actually pretty disgusting and I am tempted to try and work it into my Thorns Barbarian but I have very little wiggle room as it is for aspects.
41 life/second is insanity though (at least that’s the highest I’ve seen on my 61 Barb)
Rogue is definitely not the strongest once the bards get their buff rogue will be dead last, we were 3rd place nie 4th since sorc build and we will be dead last once the barn gets their buffs. Nice try though but your fan boi and white knighting for blizzard only works on other blizzard fan bois and white knights
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Playing rogue currently and hes worse than druid in every aspect outside of movement speed.
- ST damage? Shred does more.
- AoE damage? Pulverize does more.
- has 3 sources of unstoppable. Rogue has 1 for 0 duration.
- survivability? Has shield, has fortify. Rogue has none.
- healing? Both nerfed the same for heal on crit, but druid has roar and talents for healing.
Only good thing is rogue doesnt need uniques for a build.
And has speed, but that is pointless if you are a wet paper.
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Please point out anything I’ve said here that shows I’m simping for Blizzard. It’s like you have nothing to insult me with, so you keep falling back on the classic fanboi/white knight cliche.
Anyway, I’m obviously wasting my time here with you. Continue on struggling champ. Good luck
I think your being extremely dramatic, I was doing T100 nightmares in scuffed gear with level 15 glyphs at 92, I killed Echo of Lilith in the same gear for T100 nightmares at 96. Relax.
Yeeeah, now or before nerfs?
Rogue is still top tier right now, at least if you’re on the seasonal servers.
A lot of that has to do with The Barber but still. Actually speaking of which, does it trigger the passives that restore energy on shadow damage?!
I am and im struggling with twisting currently at lvl 65 on T4.
And as far as I know it should trigger.
The only struggles I have found are survivability related. As you bring more paragon online offensive power will not be a problem. After shoring up defensive holes I had in my build by throwing an exorbitant amount of gold at the problem my rogue is kicking butt again and has room to grow due to some trash rolls I am forced to carry until the RNG finally plays nice.
My problem is that I need to find mew ways of sustain cuz it was nerfed.
Also having to put every defensive aspect in the gear just to survive feels bad and is bad.
You shouldnt be forced to play 6+ defensive aspects just to survive.
Currently everyone running frost not because its good or strong. But because only way for you to survive is freeze everything and everyone, because whats frozen, that cannot hurt you.
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I really enjoy the Mangler’s Aspect and Trick Attacks combination. TB has a fairly high chance to proc dazed on surrounding enemies each cast and crit is pretty frequent as well. I use Cold Imbuement when I NEED to CC a group and otherwise use MA + TA for general CC.
Edit: If you can fit Shared Misery in there too the CC really starts rolling.
I play flurry instead of TB but the melee combat enemy is still there. The mobility required to pull flurry off is kind of insane as it doesn’t have the CC of TB but it does have an extremely satisfying shotgun blast when you pile enough trash mobs together with shadow imbue which is also where I get my sustain.
Two aspects are a must defensively for every class in the game. Disobedience and Might. Stolen Vigor is a must for Rogues now which makes momentum a must take passive. Those three aspects will carry you far. Cheats is a solid aspect that will net you great DR as well. I have to work harder to CC things so I went with ravagers on boots to help build my momentum stacks.
For there is kill or be killed. I am build for speed and cooldown reduction so I can attack fast and more often.
As for armor affixes the one thing I don’t like is how counterintuitive the game assigns affixes. Armor should have more affixes related to defence and less offensive aspects watering down the loot pool. You don’t see that kind of stuff on rings and weapons. Imagine getting a sword with +armor, DR close, barrier generation and intelligence. The whole loot system needs a rework.
What is your experience in terms of the defense power rankings between Might vs Temerity Unique vs Cheat vs barrier when damaging elite?
(Let’s assume disobedience and Stolen Vigor) are already used.
Every class need deffensive stats in gear (Except rings). Rogues arent the uniques.
I don’t think armor is the end all stat it used to be. The nerfs to total armor affixes and disobedience make it pretty unlikely you’re hitting the 13K+ armor breakpoint any more unless you’re running a full party with all the armor incenses.
@LeChuckVCF
The problem with rogues is that we don’t have a persistent DR cooldown like the other classes do. The DR ability Dark Shroud disappears instantly in melee range with mobs since it doesn’t have an internal cooldown. Some monster attacks even clear multiple orgs currently since the damage is split into two separate events (here’s looking at you cold imbued mobs).
We do have a couple of passives that add 12% close DR and 15% vs poisoned. Melee rogues don’t have the ability to apply poison from range. This is why you might see people complain about rogue squishiness sometimes. We have to plan to have full defensives at all times since we can’t just press a button in bad situations. The other option right now is to just play glass and accept the deaths when they happen.
Penitent Greaves will give chill the enemy and you can get another 25% with cheats aspect. All of our missing survivability has to be sourced at the expense of damage. Rogue is the true glass cannon class with a shrinking cannon.
We also have to work a bit for those procs to stolen vigor and cheats.