The whole 2 - 3 spenders you get to use from a full resource bar while it takes 10+ basic attacks to refill it.
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âThe thing that gets me is that this is NOT a game like everquest that takes months to lvl⌠It is diablo. It should NOT take months to get to where the game is fun.â
I take it you started with diablo 3 as far as playing diablo games? Youre saying its a diablo, as if it should be super fast leveling. You must not have played diablo 2 huh?
I was asking in terms of d2 though
No one who likes d2 was arguing for resource starvation.
D2 is great because of its gearing up process.
The itemization was pretty great. With useful uniques being available from lvl 1 and upward, you are able to go wherever your stats allow and gear up, while increasing efficiency and difficulty.
Which seems like what d4 devs were trying to do with NM dungeons (since they copied PoE). But their itemization mirrors d3, with ilvls, which is not compatible. I donât know how professionals canât understand this.
You clearly didnât, if you think the vast majority of d2 players cared to ever go above lvl 80
Personally never was a fan of D2. Friend tried to get me into it early on but it was never fun for me. The resource starvation is not a big problem for people in D2 because you could just spam mana pots until you reached a point where it was no longer a problem.
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Yeah vanilla D2 didnât have mana pots thatâs why the reference between D2 and D4 resource starvation. Either way itâs not fun. Neither is super slow tedious leveling.
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You donât understand that you are the cause of the problem you are going after. You donât get it. The fact they have no motivation to roll alts is exactly why they opted to make leveling such a grind.
Youâre playing a sequel to D2. Sounds like you only like one of the diablo games? This one isnât just based of D3. Youâre going to have to get used to it. That said, in D2, you are able to start farming the highest content in the game in a day or so.
Immunities are controversial, but they do grant a reason to keep making alts to deal with different content. Here, you have no real reason to farm for alts, or anything else for that matter. No reason to log in after you geared up one character. Maybe theyâll think of something, but at least D2 tried. People like you, demanding equity for all classes and content, and to not be like D2, that is why they made leveling the thing to do. Thereâs nothing else they can do, or else make people like you mad. You created this problem.
When you hear it said âplayers think they know what they want, but they donâtâ, you are that player.
The trouble is that in this gaming era, âlevel capâ is seen as a baseline goal by most players. Not âaspirationalâ as the devs described it in their recent chat, and as it was for most players in D2. D2 came from a different era, though. That was the era when level caps took extreme amounts of time to reach, and the average player didnât expect to reach level cap â the game was the game before level cap, not the game at level cap.
Since WoW in 2004, âthe game begins at level capâ has been the expectation. So players come to a game like D4 and they will all push hard to get level cap, because âthatâs when I can start having funâ (as the OP himself put it more or less). Because many (most) games today are like this.
Really the devs could have avoided this specific perception problem by making the level cap 50 or 60 or even 70 and then making the rest of it âendgame progressionâ in paragons and gear. That would have alleviated the âomg it takes forever to get 100â issue. Because even though the devs have specifically said 100 is intended as an aspirational goal, for many players in 2023 âthe game begins at level capâ, and they will all push to get to the cap âso I can start to have fun and not just be levelingâ.
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Itâs taking too long to kill trash. Trash should have 50% of its HP. Then the game could get somewhere. But this tedium⌠so boring.
I log in, play for 2 hours tops and I canât stand it anymore.
Then I need a few days off.
Itâs just the same loop and itâs boring. Changing class doesnât matter as the things they do are aspects of the same.
This class does vulvnerability, that class does fortify, the other class does overpower
BOOORING
I have no problem leveling a character and keeping them alive for the most part, especially a barbarian. My hardcore Barbarian died on T3 level 53. But besides that one, I have had really no issues leveling, I put it on T2 and crank out levels solo. If I can team up with someone, levels fly faster.
Usually in a season, there are better drops and special items for accomplishing goals. So you get a set of items for accomplishing goals. Yeah you have to re-level a character. Thatâs how itâs always been.
It starts with 2 hours, then it declines down to 1 hour, 30 min and eventually you donât want to login at all. From my experience anyway.
Yes, correct. I believe this is part of the fundamental problems Diablo 4 has. There should be more to the game post level 100. Iâve been asking for it since the closed beta.
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lvl 100 gameplay is 100% equal to lvl 66 gameplay. you are already there
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This might be the most important thing said out of most of the complaints around this game. Items are seriously dragging this game down. The power level difference. Level requirements being based on your level and not the item. Items that are just uninspired and add that with lack of build diversity and we have serious long term problems.
Hey TwoSock,
I hear you. Iâm only level 60⌠almost 61 lol. But itâs been only 3 weeks not a month. If you want, we can team up. Let me know when youâre on and we can run some dungeons and helltides. Also, the season wont start until end of July or maybe even August 2023 - no date set yet, but around that time from what I read. So you have time before the season starts.
Maybe playing as a team we can get to 100 faster and in the process I hope Blizzard D4 Team gives a nice BOOST to the awful XP in D4. Hopefully, that will improve soon!
Cheers! - JJ
I dont believe you havent found since lvl 40 a better chest piece and you are level 66⌠not possible. I hope you know that yellow items are the upgrades right ? I mean like i hour on lvl 50 once you entered nightmare would give you plenty of sacred items which are much better then your lvl40 normal armorâŚ
Also you only lvl 66 after 3weeks of playing ? I play HC only , so far i riped at lvl74 and 71, my third toon is 71 ATM.
To be fair i took a two weeks off for release but my 3rd char is now developed on ânormal styleâ 
So i play only few hours when i get from work.
I disagree, leveling is fine, stop beeing a lil baby. Also they already confirmed that NM will give more exp in future.
Bro the game has been out for less than 3 weeks, but heâs already played for a month and only 66.
I also play solo and I took the time to enjoy the campaign and most side quests (not all because getting full renown ASAP > anything else) and I am on my way to get my 3rd character to 80. What have you been doing man
Thatâs the whole misconception: the game does not become fun at level 100.
It could possible do in a static world environment, because you would be âthe big fishâ at lvl 100 mowing everything down and profiting from building up until then.
However, with the world scaling harder and harder with every level you gain you will feel LESS strong with lvl 100 than you are compared to being lvl 95 with the same maxxed out items.
The whole balancing of this game is trash / nonexistant and the fact that all patches have to be nodded off by three console companies weeks before release make it impossible to fix anything relevant short- to midterm.
I have a level 96 Druid.
I would LIKE to play an alt, but I wanted to get this guy to 100 first.
They really screwed us with the leveling time. Itâs such a trickling chore, and they nerfed the totally legal shortcuts they had available.
I donât get the ideology of making it take this long to levelâŚ
I would really like to get my MAIN to max, and then play an altâŚTHAT to me increases the lifetime of the game, not just dragging out the time it takes to get a single crumb of a paragon point.