The secret level

numerous times in the interview with d4 devs nobody asked if there will be a cow level ??

joe shelly seems like he is so afraid
and this guys piepiora is just speedruning thru interview XD

overall, 90% talking about monetization and batle pass
this is pathetic

we live in a times where game does not matter
monetization matter and i spit on that

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Pointless question to ask.

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Especially after D:Immoral many players were/are concerned with exactly that, monetization. So them addressing and discussing it thoroughly is legit and necessary.

Even asking about a secret level like the cow level, whimsydale, etc. is already defeating the purpose of surprise and secret. I’d been annoyed if they actually spoiled something everyone is in some way aware of anyway and expecting to stumble upon at some point.

Just enjoy the game and find out

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or stupid answer.

youtuber rhyker had chance to ask them but he wasted opportunity

It was asked numerous times allready. And the answer is always the same. There is no cow level.

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i hope there is

we will find out in a week

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Entering the cow level is always some secret gimicky way, that we have to figure out first. So it would be weaks before any figures it out, if it’s going to be a part of the base game and not added later.

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They said the topic of the interview would be Seasons and the Battlepass. That is why they talked about the Battlepass and monetization. People asked them to do a talk on it.

I am not sure why you expected them to talk about something besides the purpose of the live chat session.

They are not going to talk about a secret level anyway.

Exactly. A LOT of people wanted to hear about it and to be sure it was just cosmetic.

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They mentioned the cow level (no cow level)
and yes a lot of people had concerns about p2w aspects (like D Immortals) , and they have mentioned they will not accept any p2w aspects, and if they find anything became p2w they will take action right away (that was mentioned in the last interview)

Given that only D2 had a true cow level, I would presume D4 will have something similar but not with cows.

At this point if they don’t have a secret level, that would be very unusual, because it’s definitely the kind of Easter Egg everybody is looking forward to, especially now and I’m sure the developers would have had lots of fun making a level that is completely out of line with the D4 theme.

I also strongly believe that predatory practices in terms of monetization will be the end of many franchises and games. OW2 is a very nice example of this, because I bought the special edition of OW1 and like me, many others have expected to get something when OW2 launches, but holy moly, thy just gave a skin nobody liked, and they thought they solved the problem.

Now, I couldn’t really care much about these things, but it’s more about the approach these developers took and it’s the mentality that is bothersome. I don’t mind forking out money here and there on games which are fun to play.

Nevertheless, OW2 was and still is overpriced. They don’t keep their promises and balancing in that game is atrocious. Only as the player base has begun to decline, did they start nerfing certain characters which were a problem since OW1, which goes to show their desperation and it is funny how they start to care when they are losing money. I stopped playing the game for a good couple of months now, but there’s this comfort in knowing that OW2 is now struggling, it’s almost deserved.

Only problem is that there are many people involved in making games and I would presume most of the people who do the art, the gameplay mechanics and all that stuff, they’re not the ones with the monetization idea.

Anyways, D4 must have learned from Immortals, because that game was ridiculous. As much that I am a fan of Diablo, I played Immortals for a week and never touched it again. I think many developers have lost touch with their fan-base, they are underestimate them, but I would like to think in D4 things will be better and more fair.

Genshin Impact has a nice design and although completely different games, playing Genshin feels fair despite their being premium aspects, but the game is fun for F2P as well. You can get premium currency just by playing, you have a variety of events all for free, Battle Pass does not expect you to grind, daily missions are quick and easy. It’s a game even a busy person can enjoy. It’s easy to keep track of stuff and that appealed to me.

I also like Battle Passes from which you can earn back the premium currency you spent, such as in Fortnite or Apex Legends. This allows you to cycle with Battle Passes, but if you don’t finish it then you have to pay again. However, as long as you keep finishing it, you can spend your money on other cosmetics if you wish.

There are many ways to approach monetization and I think most gamers could come to terms with developers in this case, the problem is greed and that is where gamers get fed up and annoyed.

Diablo 3 had a true cow level, what are you even talking about?

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Well…11 days, but who’s counting? :wink:

Weren’t they teddy bears?

I remember a long time ago in a interview they said " no more cow levels" so i would not expect it.

Nope… there was an actual Cow level…

Put a bovine bardiche in the cube to open a portal to it :wink:

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Yeah in whimsydale/shire there was a unicorn/rainbows/bears but if you got a Bovine Bardiche and put it in Kanai’s Cube it went to ‘Not the cow Level’

https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Not_The_Cow_Level

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Technically, it’s Not The Cow Level.

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Cow level has become the generic term for secret level like when children order a coke but mean dr.pepper. I still find myself asking for a soda and get a funny look from the young people.

There is also a cow rift that can randomly spawn when doing them. It has a cow boss and drops a transmog. If I remember correctly anyway.

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They just want another talking point which I think is fine. I do agree their prerelease videos were atrocious.

However, someone like me has already preordered so advertising to me is a waste. But advertising to the homely looking starbucks barista with colored hair by having a star bucks drink and the druid class seems to be their focus. I cant blame them. If you look at Hearthstone, OW, or WoW they are all about making $$ off monetization. Hearthstone has 2 battle passes. What can ya do.