The Reason So Many Folks Are Upset?

I get it. We just have to find a different way to play than we have before. I don’t see the game as “broken” as a lot of these all CAPS youtube personalities like to state… just the formula has changed and we may need to change with it. All we can hope for is that the changing of the formula SOMEHOW does help the long term health of the game, as so they (the man) claimed.

…which don’t get me wrong… its all kind of a pain and I wish it was handled better.

I’m sure I will figure out how to deal with it. I guess what throws me back is if their intention was to push us into other builds, how can they say these changes accomplished that? Most of the buffs weren’t that amazing, so if that was the goal, I’d say mission failed.

Let me tell you why - the did beta test with much more powerful skills.

  • if beta was in its 1.1 status, everyone will feel weak, and much fewer people will preorder.
  • if server slam was in its 1.1 status, many people will refund.
  • if server slam was not but 1.0 was, people who paid the extra $20 will be VERY angry and who didn’t pay the extra $20 for early access will refund.

So the takeaways are

  1. There was simply no chance to nerf (or be balanced) and keep the revenue
  2. They know people want stronger builds but they just don’t want to give it to people

I would say the decision maker is simply evil or greedy. Well, not something new we learn about Activision-Blizzard.

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If you make the beta so everyone is weak, levelling is slow etc… it wouldnt be as much fun as when classes were strong. It was fun to kill everything with hydra chain lightning at low level. It would be garbage in current build

Nope, they are just stupid and make bad choices

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Blizzard was not tactful with these changes at all. All bug based balance changes, barbs 3 shotting world bosses, should have been fixed immediately with clear communication that if those nerfs resulted in barbs being underpowered it would be addressed. Why did they let obvious bugs linger for so long? It makes no sense unless there is some mechanical reason like getting changes done on consoles. Things like this you just have to be blunt, Blizzard needs a change in leadership.

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People are upset because we spent $100 to best test their game and were told it was the full release.

The game in this state (after the patch) is actually worst than when the game first came out. So I dont know why you said the game should have launched “in this state”.

Well, this is right for most of the devs. I mean with lowest pay in the industry, smart people qould easily leave the company… But I don’t think everyone there is stupid.

The real reasons ppl are upset because of Barb + Sorc. both of these classes were at the bottom before the patch, and after the patch, both of these classes are way worst.

I should say, this is limited to the people that actually make the decisions.

Example, in the beta, someone thought hey chain lightning and hydra are too strong, lets nerf them.

I see what you are saying here. But I’m not so convinced people would of thought that way, I know we are both kind of talking about “what if” but in my mind, I wouldn’t of thought of my character as being weak… but more so this is just how it is and I need to crack the code of how to make my build stronger. It wouldn’t be weak, because I would have nothing reference it as such. No past knowledge. “This is just how D4 is”.

Don’t get me wrong, I think missteps were allllll over the place. Especially in the communication department. I do wish things were different though man.

I think I agree with everything you said there sir.

I said that because I believe that it is. Not perfect but maybe a little better. With still a long way to go.

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barbs were never strong

even the hota exploit build is trash compared to other classes dps

their mistake was being a bunch of fools who won’t balance the classes… nerf after nerf on barb while ppl are still posting vids of their 5 second lilith kills

these devs are crap

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Thats interesting, I feel like I’ve seen a ton of WW barbs just dominating the speed farming game. Maybe that was just their Niche?

yeah well big diff between running low level dungeons for farming and high lvl nm dungeons / lilith

you should see the first 100 nm dungeon barb clear… the crap they had to do

while the druid sleepwalks through it with that 30% hp garbage

Remember brother, behind every Dev wanting to do a good deed and do right… is a man in a suit slapping handcuffs on him and preaching dollars and cents. Careful about putting too much on the men AND WOMEN* actually typing the code… alot of the times it isn’t up to them, but shareholders and management.

yeah a guy in a suit told them to make barbs trash

ok

Paid for beta test. This movement is dangerous, if they nerf Druid just few days after S1 released, then I will just say goodbye to this game.

They’re just upset this game isn’t gonna be as easy as PoE.

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Thats not how it goes exactly… but is it un reasonable to say that management wants them to slow down the progress of the game? To have people linger in game longer? To boost their hours played numbers? I think not. There are a million ways management influences the flow of development, just like with any industry.