False. It is very simply correct. You get 700 Platinum in return for completing the Season Journey. The net cost is 300 Platinum per Season.
I can tell you’ve never purchased one, or fail at basic math.
For 3000 Platinum ($30) for example, you can play 8 Seasons and have 900 Platinum remaining. That $30 is also assuming you aren’t gaining any purchasing bonuses/sales, and it’s a 1:1 per penny ratio.
3000 Plat Start
1000 season 1 cost
Season 1 Complete - +700 Platinum
2700 Season 1 Ends
1000 season 2 cost (1700 remain)
Season 2 Complete - +700 Platinum
2400 Season 3
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2100 Season 4
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1800 Season 5
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1500 Season 6
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1200 Season 7
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900 Season 8
so at the end of the day you just want something for free, without ever having invested into a battlepass, or planning to do so? how does that add up? so far you received regular updates and seasons for free since almost a year. Of course your thread will boil down to the battle pass, or mtx, since thats how you build your point.
Well, i mean i get your point, and yea, i think we can all agree d4 was released way too early. However, id also say that all live service games are “unfinished” in a sense. i mean there will be always something to fix, or to improve.
that being said, id also like to point out that i consider the term “unfinished” a little harsh. While we agree that d4 didnt deliver what we expected, we also have to admit that everything that was shown, and advertised, was in the game. So yea, we willingly purchased an “unfinished” game.
well, it really depends id say. Criticism is absolutely important, thats for sure. However, its also quite dismissal to say:
Since what we receive now, wasnt in the game, and we knew it wouldnt be. So at this point we are discussing about spilt milk. "should haves, could haves, etc dont really improve them game, especially, if you didnt deliver this feedback during their betas.
Why does this just have to be about me? You understand that if they gave the battle pass away for free, they’d do it for everyone, right? I’m not asking because I think I’m self-important or entitled. I’m asking because I think it would be a good gesture to the broader community, and I think it’s weird of Blizzard to openly admit that season 4 is a soft reboot that fixes many of the game’s core issues while still asking people for money.
Blizzard doesn’t have to, and as I said in the original post, I have no expectations for them to.
I definitely think this is extrapolating the meaning of live-service to the utmost degree to make a point, almost dishonestly. A live-service game always being updated isn’t an excuse for a game to release in a poorer state than it should. If you can agree that Diablo IV was unfinished, then there’s no “however” about it.
Unfinished is a very apt term. You even agreed by pointing out, in your own words, that Diablo IV released way too early.
More to the point, I think it’s absurd to hinge a game’s finality on what was advertised. It should, by no means, serve as a metric to discern how much the game is complete. By that logic, all games are complete upon release because what is shown is almost always in the final product. Fallout 76 should be considered complete, when you and I both know it wasn’t. As should Destiny 1, Battlefield 2042, and the many other AAA games that have released in the last ten years.
This argument falls apart the moment you actually begin applying it to other use cases.
Many of the problems being addressed in this upcoming season (and even the seasons before) were raised in beta, my guy. People pointed out to them that itemization needed work. They raised alarms about resistances not working properly, and they specifically stated that the loot stash would be an issue in the endgame.
Then why the hell would they ever give anything away to someone as cheap as you? I can’t believe you had the nerve to make this thread in the first place.
I completely agree with this, and it can’t be stated enough. The issue isn’t that they shipped out an ‘unfinished’ game, although that is a problem in and of itself, the issue is that people willfully bought it in the state it was in, myself included. I’d say I had more knowledge then most thanks to being part of the closed end-game beta, but I knew what I was buying.
It’s half and half at this point. Yes the developers are to blame for an ‘unfinished’ product, but so are the consumers for buying it. The hype and expectations were sky high and clearly they weren’t met. Now we as the consumers could’ve easily waited a week or more to see the underlying problems, but we didn’t.
If anything I just hope this enlightens people to not pre-order, wait for the game to launch, and see if it has any issues. This has been a trend since pre-orders for games began, but the hype almost always overcomes the hesitation to pre-order. It’ll be a never ending battle, just hope that people learn from their experiences is all. Highly doubtful I’ll be pre-ordering the expansion myself.
Dream on buddy Buzzard will continue on it’s present plan/path/course until it’s either #1 Plain D4 is a fail and remove it #2 They fix things the way they did with D3
The creation of something as large scale as Diablo 4 is something too easily underestimated. Yes; you can almost look at D4 at launch as being largely a product that is still undergoing testing and fine tuning.
How many lines of code is D4? Hundreds of millions? Here’s a thought: Suppose the changes we are getting ready to see in Season 4 were already in the planning stages shortly after launch. It was understood the game had to be thoroughly tested in the more basic version at launch before the more advanced features could be integrated? Stage one: launch version. After enough testing, Stage two: S4. After enough testing: Expansion.
Without allowing Diablo 4 to slowly evolve there would be no Diablo 4 at all…
Hope you guys understand that feedback is innately speaking for the rest of the group by the very simple fact that the feedback we provide shapes the game we continue to play.
Moreover, I think it’s really weird that you wouldn’t want something for free.
Like it’s fine if you want to disagree if Blizzard should give something away for free, but to tell someone who is vouching for a free product “you don’t speak for me!” is certainly a bizarre stance to have.
Well that’s pretty simple. I don’t believe they owe us anything. I spent a lot of time on the PTR. What we have coming our way is massive. Besides all that gaming is absolutely the cheapest thing I do in my life - like pennies an hour even. I have no need to grovel to save a few bucks.
Wonder why that is. Could it be because it’s all a bunch of fixes that should have been there to start?
Many of the things coming could have been (and should have been) answered before this game even came out when they were raised in beta. I’m not about to praise Blizzard for doing what should have been done from the start.
I think if you’re interpreting this as groveling, let alone an attempt to save money, then you’ve completely missed the point and are being purposefully obtuse about this.
