Tempering PROBLEM

kkkkkkk these innocent children… Alright, kid. Are you done? Now excuse me, I have to contribute to improving the game, instead of just jumping into other people’s topics to talk nonsense. Go play Barbie’s game. Good bye.

IT turns out his so called nonsense is correcting all the wrong info you are spreading on the forums. Profissional.

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There is no incorrect information. The expansion has not yet been released, until then a lot can change regarding this scroll, it just takes enough people question about it in the topics. I’m just one more doing this.

You said the scroll can be used multiple times on the same item. It cant.

You are 100% proved already wrong. Just suck it up and say u were wrong. Its not hard. I have been wrong quite a bit. ITs part of being human.

You cant say the scroll can be used multiple times on the same item because of some change you think will happen in the future based on enough ppl whining. That is some james bond villian type stuff there.

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PezRadar is the community director not the lead designer.

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I don’t care if I’m wrong, but I’m not… What Shivera said was just a post by Adam Fletcher, we don’t know what the scroll will actually be like yet. We’re just making assumptions about the scroll, nothing has been officially confirmed yet. There will be a lot of changes before the release, so stop listening to what idiots say, and start thinking like a developer. I’m a software developer, so I know how this world works, and I know that the choices of several people can contribute to last-minute changes in the game. So until the game is actually released, nothing is really known about the scroll, and every question is valid and contributes to possible improvements in the game.

Yup. Pretty sure I corrected this joker Urza before as well. But hey… I’m just some rando on the forums (you’re never living that one down!) :kissing_heart:

Nothing but :heart::blue_heart::purple_heart: for you though, Urza!

Ah. My mistake! Thanks for the correction!

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You don’t care about the market… you care about making gold or making real money by selling to some cheating whale.

Just say: “where am I going to get my gold?” instead of lying to yourself and everyone on the forum.

Defending the trade as a fun alternative to transform farming into gold is a good cause… defending the market is not.

You underestimate Blizzard’s ability to screw up.

Adam Fletcher confirming it is as official as it gets.

If you want to argue that the devs may still choose to change it to infinite uses per item and that doing so would be bad for the game, that’s fine, but the current implementation, which at the very least will be the one we see in the PTR, is confirmed to be one use per item.

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First, Diablo doesn’t even have a gold market in real life… and it’s not a game that has a strong market for it. If I wanted that, I would play other RPGs. Second, I know that Blizzard makes mistakes, and that’s what the forums are for… To alert them to the mistakes and the problems that these mistakes can cause in the game. And that’s what I’m doing, I’m raising the issue that a scroll of this type, if used only once per item, is a useless scroll. If used more than once, it creates a rarity problem for the items, and allows you to transform any item into a completely different item, which can be used in any vocation. This would harm the game’s market. And when I say game market, I mean the internal market, within the game. Outside of Diablo there is no market.

Its not that you are some rando on the forums. WE are all randos on the forums. :white_check_mark:

I guess I cant send you one heart back. :heart_eyes:

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What simulation world are you living in where the associate direction of community management saying something about this scroll is not official??? What is wrong with u?? This is the same as the ppl saying BL is not bugged after devs said yah BL was bugged. Since when are you the authority over Bliz officials?

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So I’m going to repeat it:

You don’t care about the internal market… you care about making gold.
Just say: “where am I going to get my gold?” instead of lying to yourself and everyone on the forum.
Defending the trade as a fun alternative to transform farming into gold is a good cause… defending the market is not.

The limit on tempering is a bigger mistake than “ruining the market”, a market that did not even exist before tempering.

Having to rely on the market to get items because you constantly destroy them is a big mistake that has not yet been solved.

The market should be a fun alternative, an improvement in the player’s quality of life, not an obligation.

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What world do YOU live in, man? Have you ever been involved in a software development process within a company? Nothing is official until it’s released. And even after it’s released, it can change. So just because a CEO says it’s going to be this way doesn’t mean it’s going to be this way. Companies take into account the opinions of their customers, in this case, gamers.

Have you even seen what they have done?

It’s horribly difficult to get bad ideas out of developers’ heads… Since the tempering announcement I explained that it was a bad idea in the forum and just 6 months later they are doing something… and it’s half done.

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No one sees the item market as an obligation. But many people who play for a long time make use of this market within the game, and the possibility of modifying items in an unlimited in the tempering, way would end this market.

Not only that, the items would become usable by all characters on your account. That is, once dropped, the item would never need to be dropped again, as you would change and modify it as you wish, so that it meets the needs of the vocation (druid, barb, sorc, …).
It would be a final item, and you could use it infinitely. You would never break or sell that item again, and there was no need to farm new items anymore.

And how do they use it?

Buying items?? I don’t think so, with scrolls they would have to buy fewer items so they would be happier.

You guys just want gold and not have to farm it the normal way. Wanting gold is fair… but defending something you don’t believe in is not.

You just have to say: it’s not fun to farm gold, I prefer to farm items that are more fun and earn gold. Almost no one is going to tell you that farming gold is fun.

But I don’t farm gold, where did you get this business about farming gold? Gold is so easy to make in Diablo. It doesn’t make sense for someone to farm gold.

Lets just dissect just how wrong you are in this post.

Items cannot be infinitely reset with scrolls. 1 scroll per item.
Items do not translate well between classes. Only the sorc and necro share int. Ive never done this in my history of characters except for mythics.

The middle of the season onwards is already mostly dead to sell items but prices actually go up the more the season goes on so you make more money from your items you actually do sell. I made way more money at the end of S4 than I did at the start. This is because of gold inflation from real money credit card warrriors.

Ppl might be able to get max gear for their character faster but this also will lead to more alts being made so its not a total loss.

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So… is it the other way around? Do you like farming gold, but you don’t like farming items? and do you exchange gold farming for items?

You know what, I don’t care, because there is a very simple solution whatever your motivation: ask them to make the scrolls tradable. End of the market problem.

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