Players giving streamers handouts is nothing new. Happens in every game where you have that possibility. People do anything to be a few seconds on someones stream.
In PoE it happens as well, but it is sort of frown upon, unless you give back to the community in some way, like mirror crafting items so people can then mirror it for example.
In this example though it doesnt really happen in PoE where people give free boss mats to streamers because it has a larger opportunity cost.
Youâve moved the goalpost on me. This wasnât your original claim. Your issue was streamers being fed materials and getting an unfair advantage.
Dupes and Exploits shouldnât exist, period. Limiting the entire player base from using a legit system because some people leveraged a dupe exploit is not the solution. The dupe bug needs to be fixed. Full Stop.
If a community of players wants to feed an absurd amount of materials to a single player to boost them then thatâs a choice of the community. If a 1000 different players wanted to give 1 person all their duriel summoning mats, they should have the freedom to do so. Is it legal within the game rules? yes. Does the person receiving those materials get an advantage? yes. Do we have any say in what people want to do with their in game acquired materials? not at all, the people donating those materials donât owe the rest of us anything either.
I donât really have too much of a problem with it. Itâs really no different than clans funneling mats to a clan leader which has been happening since the dawn of online gaming.
The first streamer who does a âUbers for Noobersâ segment is going to break the Internet.
I think the whole thing is hilarious tbh. âThis guy has a pixel I donât have boohoo pout pout.â
Get a few drinks in Asmon. I bet he could be snarky AF commenting about it, lol
From what I have gathered a couple of these âbestâ streamers were directing people to dupe mats for them. I bet they wonât get banned though as they didnât perform the dupes themselves.
There was no public announcement of duping when the thread was created.
This was new to me and makes even more sense why and how the streamers were getting fed so quickly and easily.
Nope, if anything theyâll get their faces back on the launcher like before regardless of running known cheating clans in the past or after getting banned for botting.
There seems to be this false image going on and people glorifying these streamers when in reality they are facilitating exploits and cheats. Not all streamers mind you, but definitely the top few that I have had communication with.
Regardless, the issue of streamers being handed materials stands independent of duping exploits. Duping shouldnât happen. Period.
Funneling trading materials into one person is whatever the community wants to do.
but but they gotta feed their cash flow some how⌠not says lame like a content creator going⌠this god build with the best stuff and saying we are lame if we cant⌠knowing full well they were carried in groups lol
Same mindset people have when they dislike minions because its an âAFKâ build choice. Who cares dude, in which way does this affect you in the slightest? You can play this game solo or with your friends entirely with no incentive or reward for competing with the streamers. The moment they decide to add a reward where they are unfairly advantaged from their platform, you can be upset. Until then lose the telling people what build to play in Baldurâs Gate 3 and getting mad when they donât mentality.
Ok, but if Karlach isnât in your party, youâre playing Baldurâs Gate wrong.
Uber boss spawns should require every person in the group to have mats. It isnât fair to the rest of us when you use your platform to take advantage of the system. I kind of know know why every politician is rich lol.
I have already unsubbed from 3 streamers/content creators begging their base for summon mats.
Just dont watch them, i also find it unfair that some make 10âs of thousands of dollars a month streaming while im slaving away.
I donât understand how a streamerâs ability to attract viewers to basically donate mats is a bad thing. I donât really watch streamers at all because I like to⌠play the game myself. But I really donât understand the gripe in this scenario. Especially in a non-competitive or ladder game.
D4 isnât competitive yet. But next season will be competitive. In season 3 the devs are adding leaderboards. All of us will be able to compete against each other and the world. So fairness matters. In an aprg we should farm and grind for loot which will make us powerful.
I guess I just donât get what the issue is in the OP. Diablo isnât competitive and never will be in the sense that they restrict trading because a streamer has âdonationsâ and you have none. Become a streamer and farm Duriel to your heartâs content. People seem very lazy and call it âunfairâ when they see others doing things they want to do but donât want to invest their own time in. Wild world.
This is an interesting perspective. Or set the loot to whomever opens the uber gets the drops, to ensure group play.
Yea, I am hoping they take these suggestions in to consideration once the boards go live.
This is the opposite of the initial discussion.
The normal player farms for these mats, then groups up with others that farmed some mats to maximize their Duriel runs.
Dupes and handouts are the issue, and that is the âlazyâ, not legit players farming for these.
I am curious what the leaderboards will be about, and the amount of complaining we get once they go live. I can only play 2h/d so i think they need to restrict gameplay to ensure fair leaderboards, ow and only solo play is allowed.
Wait. Yes it is. Taking advantage of the things youâve built is like the American way. Not having the platform youâre complaining about is kinda on you.
Thatâs like saying itâs not fair that someone else has more money to invest and make more money with because they invested sooner and more intelligently than you did.