Yeah it’s a terrible endgame system just like the rest of the systems in the game that are incredibly boring and shallow. But yes the ones that unlock after WT3 are endgame sadly.
a lot of corporate defenders here. if i pay 80 euro for a game and i see huge problems i am allowed to point them out. if d4 is great for you, that is great. i just see game breaking flaws and missing content that should be in the game by now, and not accept that a full price game will split it into parts and release it over a year just to keep the game relevant on purpose.
its like defending that there will be no leaderboard until maybe s3. that should be in the game since the start.
I know what endgame is but please enlighten me
No one is saying you cannot point them out.
Leaderboards can never show up IMO.
Got to 85 and can’t find a reason to keep going. So I can clear a T100? Lilith? For what? I’d rather just play D2. The endgame is essentially the same, and rare unique items are actually findable.
To be fair, the 6 new uniques and 7 new aspects are base game updates, cause those will go to eternal directly.
The only seasonal content are the 32 gems, the new season story line and the battlepass
Oh my attitude toward the game is already pretty good and I’m a big fan of cosmetics. So yes, the battlepass is something I want to complete.
Jokes aside, why don’t you try out season 1 and then make you decision? You bought D4 based on what they were advertising, thinking that it was going to be good and now you think it’s bad. Don’t judge something you haven’t tried.
Actually, that’s exactly what it means. When the content isn’t worth doing, it doesn’t exist to the meta player. Hence, no end game content worth investing your time into. In terms you’d be able to understand:
“The content is not worth investing thousands of hours in to at this moment and is simply not satisfactory at the current implementation”
However, D4 has no end game, sounds a lot easier to say.
Everything after level 50 is endgame.
Level 100 is the ceiling of endgame.
If you’re comparing it to a MMO, level cap is when you hit level 50.
The Paragon levels are just added character power.
The problem is the way the monsters scale with you virtually everywhere, so you never feel those power spikes you would pushing endgame content. The developers already said they aren’t building this game to “play forever”. They are expecting you to roll new builds during the season. The problem is the length it takes to get through the last quarter of endgame feels terrible for the majority of players. They are so afraid to hand out XP and Loot. If more people were able to reach the 90+ range and push into level 100 to run higher NM dungeons the game would feel a lot more alive.
Too many people hit the 70-75 or 85-90 wall and just stop feeling inclined to incrementally grind out the last bucket of levels without receiving anything in return until they would reach the ceiling.
So your solution for bad game design is for people to just quit?
Hy … well well 390 hours level 100 mage here about endgame content its pretty how can i say it hmmm boring right now only thing i do is minmax till the max every piece of gear like for nothing i cleared uber lilith and ran 80 nmd yea i dont wanna get to 100 cause its boring and hard af as sorc and not rewarding not even talking about leaderboards maybe season 5 xD idk so yea all i do pvp and try my luck in helltide chest for not getting any super unique … oh holymoly and no im not into alts i usually played one char every season also s1 is coming soon offtopic: anybody has seen khaxxatraxi (Elite) or whatever he’s called i miss him in helltides =(
extended gameplay for which players return after completing the core game objectives.
Not all games are for everybody. If you dont enjoy current end game play something else. With time they will add more as its a live service, maybe youll never enjoy it.
Just because someone doesnt like the end game after 100-300+ hours thats ok but there definitely is an end game.
Congrats on making the worst argument in history. Splitting hairs between the existence of an “endgame” vs the worst “endgame” content in history it could simply not exist and would be no different, is a huge waste of time.
The result is the same. A majority of people don’t want to play it.
Note - tree of whispers is the biggest troll response to end game content. It drops blue items ffs…
there is… but it is crap , happy now ?
Most people that complain there is no end game implies that end game is terrible to a point = no end game.
If you are this bored and want to make a thread to argue with people weather or not there is an END GAME , I just answered you - There is, but it is total S%$
D4 just isnt that good, stop pretending that it is please
I’m no corporate defender. And btw this content release mechanic is something that every game that can afford a long term support has. Even Dota 2 keeps releasing battlepasses and it’s F2P. That’s how companies monetize, since when they realised that they can spill your money with cosmetics and bull**it.
You paid 80€ for D4 and you have the right to complian, fair enough. That’s not what my post was about.
There is no end-game.
to be honest, I spent ten thousand hours in d2 and thousands in d3. I would have bought this game anyway, however, if I had been told right away that it would be a clone of d3 i would probably limit my expectations.
When in an absolutely raw game they try to sell me old d3 mechanics as a feature of the season, it’s pretty doubtful. And yes, I’m not even talking about the fact that this game was sold as a live service, whereas it’s clear to anyone that adding 6 uniques and old mechanic from D3 is clearly not the AAA level of the game for 100 bucks.
Seasonal updates that are crossing over into the ER.
NMD = farming spot for glyph upgrades
Helltides = farming spot
Tree of Trash = farming spot
Renown = trash excuse for content to keep you busy and help their engagement metrics
Side quests = Part of renown, you added an extra one here to make there seem to be more content.
Altars of lilith = See renown.
Uber Lilith = one main boss with no reward but a cosmetic title is not endgame.
There. Is. No. Endgame.