It doesn’t matter the true nature of Inarius. He’s the celestial figurehead of the church, people pray to and worship him. It’s functionally equivalent to God in this context, for all intents and purposes.
Np lol. Thanks for editing even though yours wasn’t that bad. . I moused over a forum topic days ago that spoiled a major characters death which was kinda lame, so hoping to preserve the experience for everyone else.
Your points are all well thought out though.
Sounds a lot like the snake in the garden of Eden. Or Prometheus. It is interesting how we alternate deifying or demonizing freedom and knowledge in our mythology.
Beliefs that are probably not that out of place in a hard place like Sanctuary.
No coincidence then that one of the earlier allies of Lilith you encounter is a druid who believes that without a crucible to harden the people of sanctuary they wont stand a chance against the Primevils.
One side looks like us. The other side doesn’t. Therefore the former must be the good guys and the latter the bad… Kind of a problematic worldview, but not a novel one.
I honestly believed this is where they were going. I really thought Ianarius would kill Lilith, not receive the blessing from Heaven he’d expected, and then drop the facade of being a benevolent force altogether and lose it… He seemed right on the precipice of it before his death… but then they just took the easy way out… Lilith kills Inarius, you kill Lilith. The End.
It wasn’t a bad story… It just had some real potential at parts but then they settled on the most toothless ending possible…
No, it’s not. He’s not even allowed in Heaven. He’s fallen. It means zilch that he’s worshipped; those zealots were lost. Inarius’ and their faith was false, born of pride that leads to a spectacular downfall. That’s the point of their storyline.
The priest murdered by his followers corrupted by Lilith at the start of the game was an innocent. Lilith enhances the urge to sin. People lose control of themselves once they give in to her. It’s demonstrated over and over throughout the game.
Nothing Lilith did in the game is virtuous or heroic. Most of it is an act of revenge for her son. I don’t care how you try to twist it and make things up.
Neither Inarius nor Lilith are good. They’re both zealots with their own cult following that represent two different extremes. The people in sanctuary, including their own child, are just the unfortunate pawns caught between both of them. They both deserved their fates.
We know nothing at all about that priest… and his rhetoric didn’t really sound like that of an “innocent.” And knowing what we know about priests in the real world… I think calling him “an innocent” is as big a stretch as any…
Sure… but you could say the same about the Cathedral of Light. They convinced Vhigo to lock himself inside a suit of armor with inward-facing spikes for FFS…
The world isn’t black and white. The story as a whole is pretty short on “pure” heroes.
This isn’t the real world, and we were given zero indication that he did anything to deserve his fate. Think for 5 seconds about what those same people tried to do to our characters, after we tried to help their town.
Yeah, I could, and guess what, it’s a church that followers a fallen angel that was corrupted by Lilith.
No, Lilith and Inarius’ story is pretty black and white. Neither of them are pure, nor are they heroes. They may have had good intentions to start, but we didn’t see any of that. Nothing we were given in the game makes them endearing or someone to root for/side with.
The mental gymnastics demonstrated in this thread are unreal.
Lilth simps are hilarious
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Right? They saw Lilith give another demon the chance to kill Donan’s son and torture him, and they’re like, “Total gray area there.” Lol.
Did you even watch the story? Inarius says to Lilith’s face that he wants to destroy sanctuary. In the conversation between Inarius and Lilith we have the most honest view of both their intentions, and Lilith’s intention seems clear that she wishes to protect sanctuary, while Inarius wishes to destroy it.
Now this I can get behind.
Pretty sure throughout history there has been a correlation between religious zealots and abuse. Across all religions. Listen to the way the priest was talking. SHAMEFUL! YOU’RE ALL SINNERS! He scoffs, he screams, he belittles. That’s kinda text-book abusive behavior, even if it was contained solely to his sermons… which would be ab it of a stretch.
Corrupted? According to who? Inarius wasn’t “fallen.” He left.
Not even gonna comment. Just gonna 
Yikes
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Yeah, yikes. You saw Caldeum, watched your character get drugged to be eaten after he was sent to be killed by demons, watched everything Elias did, watched Lilith do things like give Donan’s son to a demon to be tortured, possessed, and destroyed in exchange for a key to hell, opened the gate to hell (still open, mind you), then came here to make the argument that there’s a gray area lmao
According to the game. Pay attention. The Light didn’t want him back after he worked with Lilith and had a son. He was forever tainted. Lilith taunts him with it right before ripping off his wings and murdering him…so heroic…
Pretty sure a sermon and yelling and being verbally abusive isn’t justification for murdering and eating a person. But you do you.
Honestly I think this is the trend of narratives in the long run. No good/evil just all grey. Diablo 5 will introduce the half demon and half angel PC/NPC. and we will all sit in a circle singing songs and fighting the real enemy, corporations and environmental pollution with hugs and peace rallies.
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Inarius has killed thousands of humans and wants to destroy the entire world. Lilith wants to stop him and save the world, but her methods are often ethically questionable.
That’s about as gray as it gets my guy
No one said it was. Try to keep up.
So he was corrupted exactly and only “according to the light” that also wants to destroy every human on sanctuary… Btw "tainted’ and “corrupted” are not the same thing in this context
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Sigh…
Did you miss everything Elias said? He has a whole rant about how her destroying Sanctuary to rebuild it is justified…
If the Light, which Inarius is no longer accepted by, wanted to destroy all of Sanctuary there’d be angels all over trying to destroy Sancutary.
Did you see angels destroying people in Sanctuary or demons? Hmmmmm.
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She isn’t going to literally destroy it… And also that’s coming from Elias who is somewhat of an unreliable narrator clearly… Inarius wants to destroy it… literally…
Lorelol, but I’ll lay some on you. Heaven has shut it’s gates, no one gets in or out. Angels are also not just “the opposite” of demons. Demons are created en masse. Angels take a very long time to be born and there are much fewer of them. Humans also opened gates to hell with their rituals, while no similar gates have been opened in heaven. So… while Heaven would like to see Sanctuary destroyed, it likely simply isn’t worth the risk/effort.
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Given the towns and cities Lilith destroyed, the amount of corpses she left in her wake, the damage she did (gate to Hell is still open) have you paused for a single f’ing second to think about what her version of Sanctuary would look like?
No one gets in or out…minus all of the demons and angels we’ve seen get in and out.
You keep saying Heaven wants to see Sanctuary destroyed. Where did you get that from? Inarius…who doesn’t represent Heaven and hasn’t for a long time? The other fallen angels?
This whole conversation is ridiculous. Everywhere Lilith went was death and madness and you’re arguing she’s a hero so I’m bowing out lol
So this is why Lillith isnt a conventional villain. To save a world and end the eternal conflict, she’ll kill millions. She’s Thanos. tHaNoS dId nOtHiNg WrOnG
AND. not for nothing… the whole reason humans can’t fend for themselves is Inarius and the angels fault. They were afraid of the power humans had, so they spent generations engaging in genocide and weakening them to the point they’re on average no stronger than a lesser demon… If it hadn’t been for Inarius, humans would have been able to fend off Hell on its own