Sorcerer is weak

Hitting stunned and frozen targets is not tanking them retard.

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It’s funny never read anything for character setup and I naturally fell into the battle mage Arc Lash and defensive cool down setup (rotate flame shield, ice armor, and Frost Nova). I’m level 57 and play WT3 and I haven’t had much of a challenge yet, but I will say I’m very squishy when everything is on cooldown (semi rare).

Running 2x Frost Nova, Unstoppable on Ice armor, paired with 25% movement speed when unstoppable plus 4 seconds after, 6% chance to reset defensive cooldown on hit against me, then mostly damage modifiers for the rest (and lightning ball orbit). This gives two CC break abilities on your bar which is awesome and good movement through mobs to get to the center and nova.

Was running the ice blade enchant… But it was ghost nerfed recently??? Went from proccing on 20 second cooldown usage to 40 second cooldown usage… Was really good at 20 seconds but not overpowered in my opinion. That paired with the lucky hit resets from passives and hit chance resets of defensive abilities aspect (all around 20 second cooldowns) was keeping a solid uptime of several ice blade keeping that conjuration passive around 15%+ damage regularly. But need to replace that with that change as now it’s useless.

Setup is really solid in PvP as well. 2x Frost Nova and the 70% extra damage aspect usually catches people after the initial turtling of the inevitable initial ability spam.

Have to run WT4 capstone to see if it is still viable into that content.

People who aren’t in the endgame, debating how good Sorc is, is like Toddlers debating how many push ups they can do. :rofl: . Sorc is horrible in the endgame compared to the melees - a glass cannon without the cannon :rofl:

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Im currently lvl 76 and had to switch to a safe auto blizzard spec from iceshards cause i kept dying in tier 30+ dungs. its alot slower compared to other classes and I do a fraction of their damage. Don’t get me wrong I clear them with no deaths now but other people of the same level and gear could have done 2 or 3 dungs at my speed.

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Okay, so just got to torment(WT4) and tried tier 21 nightmare dungeon myself. Honestly I have to agree with Abigel, no idea what was so broken about this build that blizzard just had to nerf it lol

Hard to believe it is S tier for “pushing” nightmare dungeon on maxroll. Arc lash build felt powerful in WT3 and up to tier 20 nightmare dungeon. It’s okayish for most of content on WT4 but just not the nightmare dungeon. You only got 4 res and things hit you so hard. And the best part? You gotta fight these hard-hitting mobs in melee range. Even if they reverted the nerf, the risk of dying would still constantly be there. I couldn’t even make to the boss in my first try, hah

LOL, there’s even a glyph that enhances the lightning damage and defense of nodes around it…except there are ZERO lightning damage nodes within reach of that glyph socket, so it only affects the defense portion.

Because Maxroll was clueless regarding the Sorcerer and most of what they were doing was a) Theorycrafting and b) playing on T3. The main guy that posts from there anyway is Wudijo and all he ever talks about is the Rogue, and thinks the game is super balanced, despite not having any real experience outside of the strongest class…

Tanking does not mean getting hit. It means being able to withstand damage. Through cc, shields or whatever mechanic.

i just want to understand why you guy think high level nightmare dungeon at the hardest game difficulty is supposed to be easy?

“omg try a very high nightmare dungeon at world tier 4 and then tell me”

are you kidding me? did you expect to slap around your wand and clear it in 5min?
thats NOT the intention of the devs. otherwise everyone would be level 100 in 2 weeks time with all level 100 ancestral gear in every slot and the game is done

if you feel “strong” in the highest level game content on hardest difficulty setting, something is wrong

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The problem becomes obvious in T3 and then REALLY extreme in T4 – If you’re running around on T1 and leveling, every build is viable.

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But other classes doing just that is a-ok? Because that is the case right now.

Idk, im crushing things in T3. Its also a tanky build. But i do have the gear to support the build

I don’t feel weak yet on my sorcerer, but I haven’t pushed past 21 NM dungeon. I can definitely see how sorc doesn’t have the defensiveness to push much higher tiers. I would think they should be able to dish the damage with the right build, but how they are expected to survive I’m not sure.

But I trust others that have pushed the content noting that other classes cruise through difficult content with less effort than sorc. Either those classes are overtuned or sorcs are undertuned.

At least I’m finding the ice shards sorc fun. Upgrades and selecting the proper stats makes a big difference in how it feels to play. Mana is almost a non-issue and I don’t even have a good aspect of the umbral roll apart from the codex. I have yet to find that aspect and I’m level 71.

The only build I’ve been able to get success on is a tank sorcerer build because offensive sorcerer’s don’t do any damage compared to what I’m watching the other classes do and I seem to die instantly.

I might trade out teleport but currently I’m Deep Freeze, Fire Shield, Ice Armor, teleport, basic frost attack, and Blizzard. The only way I can pull this off is with the item that gives Blizzard ice shards that do actual damage and exploding frozen enemies (with the item as well).

AoE is quick but bosses and elites take forever to kill.

Been running nightmare dungeons with my buddy and his blood Necromancer is tankier and is doing 3 times the damage with AoE

Unplayable in any WT!

Im doing something similar but running the frost orb and iceshard enchantments so they auto cast when spamming blizzard. The only thing that really takes a while is bosses while solo. I occasionally run duo with a druid friend of mine but at that point its fine cause he is pulverizing like 90k in a line so he mostly does the damage while im there for control

This post is good because it will keep sorc player numbers down but my sorc keeps getting stronger and I am demolishing everyone in pvp as long as I play careful. Hate to say it but they are gonna have to nerf us. Unless something drastically changes.

I personally want to see fireball at 30 mana and I think that build is gonna be a blast to play. Zoomin and throwing fireballs. Standing still to cast ice shards is tough for pvp

Nobody cares about pvp.

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Well I do…my friends do. The other people I’m constantly seeing pvp do

Ice blade change were a Nerf from open beta to server slam.