That’s the rub. Diablo wasn’t an mmo and because they converted it into a hybrid one. They’ve taken the worst possible aspects of an mmo and applied it to D4. Who the F wants to grind for a week to get a level in Diablo? That’s not the experience I latched onto in D1. I didn’t want WOWDiablo. If I wanted to play WoW I would have decades ago. I personally couldn’t do it.
Speed. That XP gain doesnt cover the loss in speed due to 9lvls harder mobs. Imho
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End game ist not leveling as ur saying.
Leveling in this genra is referring to before end game. In d4 leveling is 1-50 basically campaign.
50-100 ur honing and perfect the build u leveled. Why would leveling be end game. Thats not what end game in this genra is
I’m lvl 80 thorn barb. NM20 and NM40 makes no difference, everything dies in 1 hit. If anything NM affixes has larger effect on how fast i can clear, so no slow projectile, drift shades, vul resist, extra hp etc… It’s a long list but i make do.
Naw dude. Back in the day in D2, eight player games were a blast especially when someone would go hostile and everyone would gang on up on him. Trading turned into meeting other players and at times wild conversations would arise.
Unfortunatelly in D4 levelling IS end game, because there is absolutelly nothing more once you achieve lvl100. There is literally NOTHING to do, so the last action you can consider being end game activity is levelling. Then there is just big smelly nothing
Perfecting gear, trying diff builds and making Alts.
THAT’S proper end-game.
100 should be 7 days tops at a non “20h/day” pace.
Blizz missed the bullseye by a mile with crazy respec costs, poor stash management, Aspects designed to be huge objects and slow paced leveling in an ACTION game.
That’s just like my opinion man.
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I’m just doing 1 level a day now that I passed 80, then I play Baldurs Gate 3.
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That doesnt make end game in d4 leveling.
Thats not what leveling is.
By that logic lastt epochs end game is also leveling sence u can start monos in chapter 2. Thats if ur build can handle that big of a Alvl jump. Its not.
Leveling is something u do before u start end game and start molding ur build into its final end game form.
50-100 isnt Leveling. Thats players shapping there builds they leveld 1-50 into its end game form.
Nothing to do after hitting 100 doesnt change this. Every game in this genra does this. Weather u hit 100 or u have all BiS.
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Multiplayer games weren’t a choice in the days of D2. Everyone quit when they realised unless they enjoyed act 1.
What? Of course there were 8 player games in D2. It was D3 that reduced it to 4 players…that was when the social decline started.
Stop blaming the players. I guess it’s my fault i want to stop playing D4 temporarily? You know exactly what i’m talking about.
The leveling process is definitely a chore. If anything, solo players should get rewarded with more XP for playing this slog of a game.
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That would have nothing to do with solo. Because leveling in a group is even slower. You get 10 percent more xp but the mobs get 300 percent more hp. And there is no synergy between classes in fact groups usually lower your dps because of unstoppable instantly on every pack of mobs.
What??? Since diablo 2 we play with groups, 8 players in d2 and 4 players in d3, in d2 u only drop good runes and items playing with 5+ people, do you remember group baal runs, chaos sanctuary and cow level runs?
In d3 u do group bounties for materials and group gr for xp, u are very wrong, just add group finder and problem is solved.
I solo’d D3, so sorry. All i remember of D2 is every game having an auto looter. click, click, click click… oh well… maybe next game
What are you in a hurry for? Enjoy the journey. There is no additional content beyond level 85 (except for a chance at uber uniques)… so getting 100 won’t change the game. It’s all the same game loop from 85-100. 2 Hours is not bad, you will be level 100 in 40 hours then…
If they make it fast people will complain theres nothing to do 
Lack of content is real that’s why they made the leveling feels like a real job.
There’s no target farming, uber item are impossible. Basically NMD all the way from 50 to 100 (30-40 hours ish? yikes)
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wouldn’t endgame start at level 80 when gear stops increasing. Once you hit 80 you have 20 levels to perfect your gear to prepare for Uber Lilith. I guess Dev’s thought it’s better to have you work on the last 20 levels while hunting BIS gear then to hit 100 and get upset because you couldn’t kill her right away with subpar gear.
Idk what this dude is talking about. Leveling is the most trash it’s ever been for solo players. They punish players for playing solo, but do not make it easy to play with others.
I was level 81 running NM dungeons +17 mob level higher than me, with full XP boost from season (8%), and an elixir. One NM dungeon full clear with slay all task gave me 1/8th of a level. Not a paragon point. Not a semblance of progress. I promptly got on the forums to convince myself to uninstall, and haven’t played since.
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