WOAAAH
let me hear of this defense that lets you not get 1 hit by spikes.
even when i had 9600 armor it didnt do jack. yes i could add a 900 armor potion but isnt she level 100 anyways so your at the cap regardless.
i rolling with 10.3% damage reduction on my chest. and this isnt even my max defensive chest
16.7% DR to close on pants
10.3% flat DR on pants
DR while injured on pants as well
another 17.4% DR to close on necklace as well
I read DR to close and distant enemies doesnt even work on lilith
im not calling you a liar, but nothing indicates to me that a rogue can tank spikes
maybe if you devoted your entire paragon to defense which im sure someone made a build already for that. but it would probably be easier just to do the poison build
to tank Lilith it probably has more to do with HP. im guessing you need like 15-18k hp in addition to endless forms of defense
also, anything i saw related to tanking for a rogue was before the nerfs to defense
I confirm!
This is stupid: I build very well my gear and to finish it I need to learn stupid phases and many attempts. I build for many days/weeks my gear! This boss should be easy…is enough time I spent to deserve it finish it easy!
Mate, they die in Tier 1 dungeons. Why would you even mention they should fight uber Lilith. Lol.
You know, you can simply run to where it is safe?
Lilith jumps, you run, that way you already dodge the first attack and have enough time recognizing the pattern.
lilith is the way she is because there is no endgame at all
so the devs want to create a fight where it takes hundreds of attempts to fill your time when you reach level 100 because there is legit nothing else for you to do
I attempted NM tier 100 at level 96 and completed it successfully without issue… so there is no ladder to climb and try to max out NM tiers for me. so when hitting 100, it was like wtf do I even do now?
thats also why lilith doesnt give a real reward, because they made it a stupid fight intentionally and they know if Lilith dropped uniques and ubers then the entire community would just complain to no end
so shes a time sink… plain and simple
either spend the hours to learn the correct dodging mechanics to spikes… or, find a busted build that can burn her to nothing
because teleport isnt required to defeat her, just as dash inst required for a rogue. you just need ample movement speed
otherwise you are admitting its impossible for the other classes to dodge her spikes because they dont have teleport?
i tried with dash on my rogue and actually prefer to fight her without it. dash kept sending me outside the circle and killing me when i wasnt careful enough
Its strange that one of the best sorc players still using teleport in that fight with his CL build. Watch northwars UL kill with CL. And you really think that is possible with a controller. You really dont know what your talking about.
but what do i except from a rogue player, that has easymode integrated into the class:p
Well of course, that is how my friend and me did it as console players.
There is no strange magic behind seeing and doing, or recognizing 1 of 3 patterns of attacks that you need to dodge by simply moving out of the way.
But if there is something available to make it easier, like teleport for example, why not use it?
Just because one cant do it doesnt mean it is impossible, it simply means one is not as good in that matter as one want to believe.
because teleport is on every sorcs bar already. why not use it?
but its not needed you idiot
how does every other class dodge the spikes. They run. they dont have teleport
teleport isnt needed
There are videos on the mechanics…made by people who have tried hundreds of times before beating her without glitches. Wudijo made one, just take a look and learning the mechanics should be easier. Or you can keep at it and learn from your own play, but it won’t be 5 times I can guarantee you that.
For it to be badly designed that would mean they put effort into creating the fight.
They obviously did not. This fight is just uninspired one shot mechanics.
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as cl sorc? or which class? and what time did your killtry took?
cheesing most of the fight and dodging 2-3 mechanics over the whole fight proves nothing. As i said w/o cheese its on another level if you fight with a build that doesnt have the dmg for a 1 or 2 minute kill or less.
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Feel free too add me, and I can show it to you 
Yes, armor is capped for lvl 100 mobs, alltho I am capped for max - 154 mobs.
That’s 13k armor. With 15k+ healthpool, and on chest/leggings/Helmet reduction stats. On all of those + ammy - %Dmg reduction stat.
Combine that with momentum / Darkshrouds and you should be good, for another 40% DR. (I proc shadows with some aspect for free with lucky hits).
Also poison btw 13+k attack power.
Barb, Necro, Druid, Rogue.
Once with all 3 of us, once with 2 players, and everyone solo again (yep, none of us played sorc, we all didnt feel the vibe of it during the leveling phase).
No dps cheesy kills, neither brute force tanking.
Kill time between should have been between 5 to 10 minutes for the solo kills.
Attack power as a stat is almost as good as saying you deal armor amount of damage 
So i tried it with just 3 changes
- hp potion (took me to about ~14.8k hp)
- put my defensive chest on. Lose a ton of agility this way though. TB return damage dropped from ~48k to ~44k on the tooltip
- swapped a few skill points. Instead of 1/5 dark shroud i went with 4/5 D.S
Wow! it works. You can completely tank the spikes as a rogue. And i did so with very minimal changes. It hard to say exactly but it looks like i can tank it with ~30% hp left
The catch is you need dark shroud active when the spikes hit. If its on cooldown, your out of luck
Yep, it’s more challenging with a controller. So someone doing it with a controller vs someone doing with a mouse, I give more props to the guy with the controller. Still props to the one with the mouse.
I just wish it’s equally easy or equally difficult but that’s just a dream.
