Shademist Aspect concerns

Necromancer
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Is there some type of compilation or list that describes in detail with aspects, Skills, and Glyphs interact / scale with this aspect?

IE:
would it trigger inevitable fate aspect?
would it scale with aspect of creeping death? or aspect of reanimation?

i would hope that it triggers shadowblight

does it scale with paragon +DOT damage?
does it scale with armor +DOT damage
does it scale with +summoning damage?

i know most of the descriptions (albeit a few like gloom or terror) say whenever YOU deal or YOUR damage over time —- but they will impact minion damage too (like the passive skill Amplify damage)

can anyone please enlighten me on this? it’s so hard to make a build on my favorite class because i don’t know what does and doesn’t impact these aspects ):

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Since it changed form the PTR it needs to be re-tested.

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  • it snapshots fully on minion summon forever
  • it does not scale with minion modifiers (despite saying the minion does the damage)
  • it is proccing 100% lucky hit
  • the tooltip was not updated from the PTR
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It has a 100% lucky hit chance? Seriously?

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I think what they meant is, that it deffinetly procs LHC.

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After testing it seems it doesn’t seem to proc LHC, atleast the Decrep CDR doesn’t seem to work anymore, I have to cast skills to lower CD, but Aphotic does still trigger it. It still builds up SB realy fast on it’s own with Blighted aspect.

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So you’re saying the aphotic bug is still around from last season? I’ve been struggling with corpse generation… sounds like I need to give this another try.

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Yes Aphotic still triggers LHC, Shademist was only able to during PTR.

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Many thanks. I switched to it this morning and corpse generation shot up as well as cooldowns being reduced at a noticeable rate. I was really getting tired of having to wait out golem cooldowns.

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I did a lot of testing of the Shademist Aspect yesterday, and it didn’t help lower my CDs at all. It’s funny that they managed to fix the 100% LHC for this Aspect, but they left it working with the Aphiotic Aspect.

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Yeah Shademist is totaly useless this way. The only thing it’s good for is building up SB stacks realy fast, but with the Blighted aspect nerfed, doesn’t realy matter so Aphotic is still the better choice.

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I’ve been playing with blighted and just going full ham with attack speed (sitting at ~152 with zero MW). As long as things don’t die on the initial hit, I can build stacks nearly instantly. So I’ve stuck blighted on my amulet and feast on my weapon. Feels pretty good overall unless things die before shadowblight can proc. Blighted isn’t fully dead at least… just mostly.

Shademist was seriously lackluster in all ways.

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Well yeah I guess Blighted on an amy is still x75% multiplier. Shademist is good for leveling maybe, but than it falls flat badly.

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Kripparian said, shademist is completly bugged. is that true?

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Macro actually put together an interesting build using it. I’m working on assembling gear to try it. It’s not even A tier by any stretch, but it looks fun.

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Yeah I saw it, it’s a bug proc build. It was interesting to see it can trigger LH on items better than the Abhorrent Decrep CDR. Maybe Aphotic has a higher LHC, and we need more LHC affix on gear for Shademist to trigger LH effects more frequently?

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It’s kind of weird. I noticed it triggered lhc in my testing, but aphotic was anywhere from 2 to 3x better on triggering cdr of decrep with no lhc additives. Though I did see shademist doing chunks of cdr at times.

I’m thinking it’s not a bug that it has a native lhc and had a good ~40% lhc base that isn’t announced in the tooltip while aphotic is something near 80% based on not seeing a consistent cdr when using only reapers in testing. I noticed it could chunk a few seconds off, but wasn’t 100% consistent with every hit.

Just estimating the numbers, based on observation. I don’t have the patience to do a frame by frame analysis and then record the data into a spreadsheet.

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Damn. It’s the stuns. We see less lhc cdr drop with abhorrent decrep, because shademist doesn’t stun as often as aphotic. Not even with crippling darkness. Probably because it’s not a darkness skill and that is why x’fals procs are better with shademist, because it required dot damage to go off.

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Makes perfect sense. I’d love to find a way to put them both together for some absurdity, but I don’t have time right now to do silly things with my play time. Gotta keep wife and kids happy first :grin:

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