this guys a waste of time. hes been smoked 10+ times minimum. best to ignore until mommy comes to tuck him in.
So, if respecing was free, it could lead to players feeling like they have to exploit certain game mechanics to get ahead. Like, if thereâs some cheesy stuff you can do to make a dungeon easier, you might feel like you have to do it every time. And I think thatâs a bad thing.
Having to carefully consider your choices is what makes an RPG more immersive and engaging. Itâs like, your choices actually matter and affect your characterâs growth and development. And I think thatâs the kind of game that the developers of Diablo 4 want it to be.
I know youâre saying there are other gold sinks and that creativity should be encouraged, but I donât think removing the respec cost will achieve that. You might think that players will just experiment with different builds whenever they get a new legendary, but in reality, theyâll probably just look up the best build for that dungeon and switch to that.
Refusing to see how players will actually use the system if it were free is shortsighted, and I donât think itâs the best idea for the overall balance and fairness of the game.
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The fundamental difference between classes is a barbarian smashes and a wizzard makes fire? . . . .RESTRICTIONS??? What does that even mean?
They will always do this. and they will do it even more now because it costs them gold to make changes.
But I thought the cost of respec was prohibitive and restricting, preventing people from switching every dungeon, which one is it?
why the heck are we running in circles with this man.
So, if respecing was free, it could lead to players feeling like they have to exploit certain game mechanics to get ahead.
If respecinig is restricted. Players will feel like they have to look up a guide to not waste their time. Everyone will run meta builds. and everyone will complain that they do this.
if thereâs some cheesy stuff you can do to make a dungeon easier, you might feel like you have to do it every time. And I think thatâs a bad thing.
This is fundamentally a class balancing issue and not a lock you skill tree issue. Ultimately. we want to see a game where now matter what archetype you build into you can clear content. If blizzard is missing on that one then we let them know x needs a buff to be as good as y.
Having to carefully consider your choices is what makes an RPG more immersive and engaging. Itâs like, your choices actually matter and affect your characterâs growth and development.
Your choices already matter. If you make the right choices your build does more damage. Wether you decide to play cold sorc or fire sorc, is already a choice that matters.
I think we are refusing to see how having this restriction actually doesnât matter at all. Its just friction for the sake of friction.
This is the first time anyone has made sense to me who is for respec cost. Everything else Iâve read so far is just âchoooooices should have consequences!â I subscribe to the idea that inconvenience does not make a game hard in a fun way. Making the gameplay actually challenging does. Thank you for your perspective. First person who has given me a legit reason to change my mind on this issue.
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If anything, it being free reduces the cost slightly. The cost of respec right now is massive. Not only it costs the gold to change your points, it also costs all the gold to change your gear.
The gear is detriment enough; the gold cost per talent is redundant. Maybe that is not apparent to you, but it is to anyone that has put actual thought into the beta.
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Fixed that for you.
Your fun is not the only fun, what you deem enjoyable I consider annoying. I canât speak for others nor should you.
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Dogs, you CAN RESPEC, you just have to pay some gold!!! Stop whining and git gud
Ew, no. Whatâs even the point of character builds if you can literally just change your skills on a whim? Whereâs the immersion? It makes no sense. D3 messed that up, everything was 100% about items, letâs not repeat the same mistakes D3 made.
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You seriously thinking that a respec in beta on a lvl 25 char (which is 1/4 of the total level) will be that low?
Blizz themselves stated that the respec WILL increase with each time you respec.
Meaning you wont be able to respec all you want and just go out to âfarm creeps, its that easyâ
Its a player issue if you are going to constantly respec.
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Yes and no.
We dont know how lategame will look like.
So you may find items that will make a different build miles better.
Also we dont know if there will be balance changes and if yes, how impactful they will be.
If blizz decides that your build is OP and nerf it, what will you do?
Continue playing it?
Or respec?
Im not saying respec should be free.
But ever-increasing cost also isnât a solution.
Keep it in my opinion. I donât want to just have 1 character for each class, I want to commit to different builds.
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Atm in D4 everything is about items!
In D4 you are getting weaker every time you level up.
I think the scaling world will be a huge misstake, if you can gettign stuck after a lvl up and farming is no option, because you will level up again and everything will be stronger as beforeâŚ
Level means nothing in the current state of the game, all thats matters are items for power.
For example there is a dog s⌠leveling build, but its goodly in endgame, now you are basicly forced to play it before you get to the point where you are max.
Its like leveling a Holypriest in classic wow 20 years ago.
And dont forget its a sesonal game, one season last for 3 month. Atm you can reach lvl 25 in like 2-4 hours if you know everything but for the most its more like 10 hours.
For max even if there is no slowing down in leveling you are looking at 20-30 hours for leveling.
When this is not a seasonal Game it makes sense but with these seasons, no way because every 3 month everything will be resetted.
I want to play 1 character of a class with friends and solo and be efficient. I rly dont want to level the same class only for a group build and a solo buildâŚ
I want to invest time in things that are fun for me. I am not 20 anymore where i have a lot of spare time to game all night long.
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After playing beta on 2 classes, I change my stand on respec.
Respec should be FREE, or at least cheap.
I always support free respec, just to be clear, but I was able to compromised & meet in the middle. But after beta, I am firmly in Free/cheap respec camp. Making respec hard in late game will be a mistake!!!
being about to test & experiment with different skills is one of the fun part of character building.
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AGREE! Blizz should remove respec cost. For Barb some bosses are impossible to kill with some builds. Caster bosses are hard af to catch they just run around. We dont have sets to reduce dmg by 80% so its very hard to stay on them and do dmg with some builds and not die constantly.
Let POE have that. Keep diablo fun and faving to roll a new character of the same class for a new build or a build to kill range bosses is going to not be fun.
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No one is stopping your from creating more than 1 character of each class
Whats the difference between able to change a character on a whim, or you can change a character with enough gold which you can do already?