Nobody is giving demands and nobody is threatening blizzard in any way shape or form. It is a PROVEN FACT that games without overlays will have a 3rd party program created in days or months (depending on the game) of it being released.
The simple FACT is as many in this post have said time and time again that your idea of the game immersion being broken is your OPINION which has 0 FACTUAL evidence that it does what you THINK it does. Same with the devs their delusional idea that a overlay kills the immersion of the game is based on THEIR OPINIONS not the majority of people like myself that have played every single Diablo game for countless hours with the ability to use a map overlay.
To take that away based off of a biased OPINION is not acceptable. If they want to ruin the game by forcing people to use 3rd party programs for the simple QoL features we had from day one of the first released Diablo then so be it. Simple FACT is you will see the problem when game releases and within a month you see non stop complaints about having to use D4THud or you cant compete with others in the game weather its pvp or pve content.
Then you will scream for bans which wont happen just like in Diablo 3 having TurboHud since 2012 without any bans because they cannot detect a program that does not access the memory of the game or change it in any way. It uses the information sent to the client that is ALREADY there in the game but not visually shown to the user because the devs like here in D4 have a delusional opinion that having no overlay will give more immersion to the game.
See here is another guy that gets it. I would love to start a poll to show that the majority of people who care about the Diablo IP as a whole and want to keep its ROOTS as to not reinvent the wheel so we can show people want in game overlay instead of a crap map you have to open and be vulnerable the entire time you are in the map.
Or a follow the trail bs that has no benefit in dungeons and keep my attention at the top right mini map the entire time I play instead of in the middle of the screen.
I also want the map overlay back, as long as there’s like a slider to control the transparency of the overlay I don’t really see it being much of an issue where its cluttering the action/battle. I mean in most cases I just want the map overlay up while I’m traveling, when in battle i’ll prob just turn it off and turn it back on when traveling.
It amazes me how there’s players saying things like “I dont want it, I dont need it”… It’s not going to be a feature your forced to use, its not going to replace the current map system with the pin feature. We can have both and players should have the freedom to use one or the other…
if we dont get an overlay map , at least add zoom out for the mini map , at the moment its next to useless to even have it on screen when in dungeons or exploring the world ,
Hey look, another person with nothing beneficial to add to the conversation, just keep wearing those blinders & thinking that everyone gets banned that has ever used 3rd party software on any Blizzard IP.
That’s why Diablo 2 Resurrected, Diablo 3, and WoW are riddled with people using bots and overlay programs like TurboHud, or maphack for Diablo 2 Resurrected. Good luck, you will be back to Fortnite with in 1 week after release and your opinion still wont matter. LoL
To anyone dropping the counter argument of “I don’t want an overlay up all the time”, have you uh… have you played Diablo 3? Even a little bit? The overlay prevents movement commands, meaning you cannot even have it open during combat. It is a quick reference tool that allows you to check your navigation and landmarks (shrines, doorways, etc.) within a second or two. A World Map, which is all Diablo 4 currently offers, is not designed to tell a player which corner they need to walk around next. Not every run to the nearest cellar or dungeon needs to be a f***ing road trip that requires placing a destination pin prior to embarking on your journey. It destroys any sense of gameplay flow.
As I recall, you can’t even place one of these pins while inside of a non-Overworld location, so Dungeon navigation is equally painful.
Do you people actually enjoy having to consult Google Maps for every movement across an in-game region? I really can’t understand the masochism. What’s worse is you insist that others share your suffering.
I don’t think this game will have any legit 3rd party overlays unless they have a hook for things like Overwolf that provide coordinates to their addons like New World did (and regretted I think to some extent).
Ones that use memory reading to work would be bannable.
I would post the link to it but it wont let me probably because it being a .io site. Just google Diablo 4 map and you will see the interactive map site that shows you where everything is.
This map website which could be turned into overlay very easily allowing you to see everything turn off things turn on things and win in the game. The only info you would even need to implement it is the coordinates in which your character is at in game 1 value that the game gives you anyways so no hacks/cheats to get it.
We are just asking for the overlay that every diablo game has so we don’t have to keep getting lost. This interactive map will be turned into a overlay for the game within a month if no overlay is provided in game guarantee!
Because me and 1000s of others don’t want the crap map system they have (they can leave it in but its trash), we want the overlay we are use to in every Diablo game.
while i agree, too much you can do with WA nowadays. But i always liked one aspect, you could change ur button layout to a qte like gameplay, which was super fun to play, i really felt like i play god of war and not wow
Ill repeat since you didn’t read other posts that say same as you, TurboHud been going strong 0 bans for Diablo 3 since 2012. What makes you think that they will be able to catch people using D4THud if they cant do it in their previous IP. Hell even D2R has a maphack that is undetectable now lmao.
If you overlay something static or that’s manually controlled that could work, but it’s not as good as a built-in overlay or a third party one that can get your coordinates and move the map automatically as you move.
The New World overlays used that kind of map data but automatically moved as you moved and knew where you were. This made resource farming and chest farming much easier since all the resource nodes in New World were in static locations.
I agree they should just have a built-in overlay as an option.
Go ahead. No one is stopping you. I dare you to use one, lol. Talking to you morons is like talking to the wall. Never goes anywhere because your entitlement and egos are as bad as the stench u get a from a landfill. No one can reason with you. You think the world is out to get you and the world revolves around you and no one else matters. You are too stubborn and pig headed to realize its not your game. The devs will do what they feel is right. Either you play or you wont. They wont care. But if you think you are entitled to things just because you demand it, doesnt do anything but put you and your chronies on the ignore list. They felt map overlay wasnt right for D4. Period. Get over it and move on. Or develop your own game and do whatever you want. Or play D2 more. Your childish behavior will only negatively impact your cause. Make your case and move on.
Be an adult. Or be a jerk and act childish. You wont get anywhere.
The devs explained this already. They think an overlay is too effective and you are too successful when it’s on all the time. So they try to seperate the combat and navigation tasks of the core loop by this new navigation design. But it’s not balanced with the minimap, it’s too underpowered.
By putting an option into the game that let’s you use the overpowered old design, they give players a button with “I don’t care about your new design, I just want to navigate faster than the next guy please, thank you!”. To nobody’s surprise everyone presses the button and the redesign is meaningless.
Ive already made my case in multiple ways like adults do yet you have not provided 1 VALID reason why it shouldn’t be in the game. You just resort to degrading others, name calling and tantrums. Ive explained why I think the devs decision is a wrong one and we as the people that buy said game get to voice our opinion same as you can.
I have provided FACTS as to WHY the game should include the overlay feature. The devs have provided an opinion of what they believe. Not based on any FACTUAL evidence to support it. Show me any video from now back 20-30-40 years of players complaining the map overlay causes immersion issues or causes them to not be able to play the game cause they cant turn it off. Show me some evidence that the game is WORSE due to an in game overlay in any game from now back 20-30-40 years.
Fact is you wont find one because its never been an issue until this dev team decided that in their opinion it does. Which yet again is an OPINION not a FACT.
So what’s the difference then? If they are using 3rd party programs and those games HAVE in game overlay then there’s no difference if D4 adds an overlay map, people will just use 3rd party anyway.
