Necro Minions Too OP. Thoughts?

Sure, but it has very high requirements to do so.

I do, but I am not a poor necro player. In fact, one of the best hc necros. Forced = I have to play build x, which I do not like, but it clears 5-8 times faster and has less requirements to work and do so. How about that?

Agreed. They change too much and do not properly adjust previous changes. At least not on time. Hope this season helps them gather the necessary stats to do the work and also balance future seasonal powers accordingly.

I hope they do. I mean, that is basically why they did not add a borrowed power theme to this season. They are gathering a lot of data. i am sure there will be some balancing changes. If not in this season, then most definitely in the next.

Yep. Looking forward to that. PTR and S4 data should be more than enough to go towards a better balance. Especially having in mind the expansion and new class coming pretty soon…

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Minion Necro is glass cannon , so if you dont use 100% uber-exploit-things that only the 0.1 % have , you will get one shoot by bosses due ping even farming a lvl 79 (despite you reached 100 at some lucky time) . So dont make it completely useless again . Is the only Necro that can do a 61 atm .

How about this: You indeed are a poor Necro player, and I will state it clearly again.

Your entire topic and subsequent replies are full of hyperbole. In your OP, you request “Thoughts?”, but then become dismissive of any opinion that disagrees with yours.

You equate playing D4 with “work”. That immediately invalidates your entire premise.

When Bone Spirit was mentioned, you dismiss with “but it has high requirements”.

When discussing “minions”, your example of overpowered is simply “golem”. You can play minions without golem.

I’ve got a Bone Spear/Minion Necro without golem that can clear Pit 90s. I can easily speedrun low 80s. I can probably push into 110s with better gear.

Link one of them. Let’s see it, since you “are one of the best HC Necros”, in your words. I’ll wait. :laughing:

This is only true if all you want to do is play the leaderboard game.

If you just want to have fun and see where you can go, then this isn’t a problem at all.

Compete with yourself, not others. See how far you can push YOUR build.

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someone is forcing you to play a way you dont want to? i feel for you. personally i dont have anyone holding me hostage, so i play what i want

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But but i want what they have, its not fair!

Lol i agree 100% with you. Its more satisfying playing for yourself and your own enjoyment than worrying about what johnny over there is doing.

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If you want to do high tier content, yes you are being forced into certain classes/builds. Going as high as possible is a common goal for most people. If you dont care about that or havent yet reached the level where you realize these things then sure its a non issue.

Minions should be nerfed. But so should many other builds.

Don’t like it, don’t play it. It’s a pet build where your summons should do the job for you. We necro mains were waiting for this since lunch. Minions are fine, Blight is also very powerful, and Bone Spirit also. Others needs to be buffed in the future.

Than your opinion doesn’t matter, if you are a hater. Sorry.

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Oh! I see. You are some softcore Andy, :laughing:

I don’t work. Work is for slaves. My copmanies work for me. I don’t work. Do you work?

I did not dismiss it and what I said is true, but maybe you never played it and need a guide or explanation to fathom a simple sentence.

Not necessarily true. Skeletons could be very powerful, too.

Then I wonder how you could not notice the problem. Let me guess… You play softcore and die 100 times per day… :rofl:

Sure thing. If you remember D4 Armory, you probably saw me on the first page multiple times. Also on the gauntlet while it was still interesting.

It is against the rules.

That’s what I said and did. Tried like 9 builds already and some of their variations I could come up with.

Yes. The devs by not balancing properly.

Sure.

Not a hater.

Balance is all over the place.
Play whatever you want. Then stop when your class/build can’t go any further. It’s not like there is some prize for playing deeper into the pit.

Make no mistake I absolutely hate the state of balance.

But they don’t care enough.

In your initial post you state you hate minions. Ofc you would want them to get nerfed. Inconclusion, you are a hater. Or troll, from some of your replies it seems. So if you are just bored and came here to stear :poop: up for your entertainment, go and make love to yourself.

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I still believe they could do a better job at it. It is way off. If the difference is not so huge, I could understand, but I believe they are far from what they want to achieve and are still learning. The changes they make are bold and drastic, as if not tested well enough.

In my initial post I state…

This does not necessarily mean I hate them. The world is all black and white to you? No need to be a linguist to understand word relations are not simply antonymous, right?

i dont see a need to push beyond pit110 so i just enjoy my own builds

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And thats the way you choose to enjoy the game. Thats great for you. However, a lot of people enjoy going as high as possible and competing against others. And when you can only do that with 1-2 meta builds that you dont enjoy then its just disappointing. Theres no reason that less powerful builds should not get buffs to bring them closer to meta builds.

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That’s a thing, which should be pointed out to the devs. They obliterate player choice with a light hand, as I see it.

no such thing as competition in the pit. if you want to push higher in the pit you are doing it because you want to. which also means you are choosing to follow a meta because you want to. no one is forcing you to do anything

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minions are pure garbage build cuz there is no telestomping in this game for god only know reasons.

I had alt necro this season, completed t120 and can go way higher if i rly want to, but it’s not the case cuz playing minion build is just unpleasant in D4. Idk who can like that

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