in that case I hope they remove the annoying “fail stacks”, It would be fun to be able to build to out tank bosses instead of always having to resort to out dpsing boss to skip mechanics. I can tank bosses in Pit108 but uber lilith’s wet lettuce attacks end up oneshotting after 5 stacks.
I agree we need more difficulty on the top end but we already have too many world tiers imo. Delete/consolidate WT1 (can keep WT1 difficulty for the campaign or something) and WT3 and then we could add another tier on the top with level 154 enemies (nightmare dungeon 100) to add some threat back into the game. Current WT4 enemies very quickly become unable to do anything to the player and it is indeed not engaging gameplay for the most part.
A higher world tier could be tuned specifically for more geared level 100 characters and could have more challenging world boss fights etc. Definitely don’t want any new item power brackets or increases but a small boost to greater affix droprates (nothing significant) or other drops just so it’s not exactly the same as the previous world tier would be good.
Other solution is the profane mindcage idea but apply it to the entire open world and let us stack it multiple times to let us raise monster level by +10 for each one we consume. Only issue with this is you could stack it multiple times as high as it goes (let’s say level 200 enemies), and then just have a level 80 character in WT4 with no mindcage stacks, just come and kill all the enemies for you lol.
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This is like Something About Mary when the guy’s bright idea is to make a “7 minute abs” video because it’s shorter than “8 minute abs”
Once you have WT5, power creep will inevitably “creep” up, until 2 seasons from now, someone just like you will say “It’s about time for WT6”
Yes they will because once you collect enough gear to power through WT5, the same question will come up with WT6. “WT5 is too easy, it’s time for WT6.” This is not a scalable solution. Power creep over time is inevitable. There should be other ways to express your power. The Pit is one of them.
Why doesn’t D3 have anything beyond T16? Why not T20? T25? It’s the exact same problem.
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You can just retune WT5 exclusively, it doesn’t need to accommodate any other lvl besides lvl100.
The purpose of WT5 is to make the overworld more engaging and less boring.
Players still need to spend time in the overworld so it needs to make them want to play the content. Being unengaging because it’s too easy kills the desire.
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I really don’t know what the answer is. All I can tell you is I don’t think Blizz may be too keen on introducing a WT5. What level do you set the monsters at? Too low and the “problem” isn’t addressed. Too high and people say the content is too hard. If there are no additional rewards, people won’t use it so you need to offer some kind of carrot. And then people will just say end-game is too hard.
Maybe we get WT5. You can only enter it if you’re level 100 and all monsters are lvl 125, and 150 inside Helltide. But once you complete Pit T100, suddenly that lvl 150 isn’t very threatening anymore. So what level do you set it at so people don’t start asking for WT6?
The Mindcage is an interesting concept. Maybe there’s something there. The game obviously allows two players to see the same monster at different levels.
we need WT16 like D3… lol because nobody plays on any other Inferno level but 6/10/13/16 all others are pointless… it breaks down to just 4 choices…
but i would like a WT5 or a squish of WT2 into WT1 and scootch everything down a peg to make WT1 (as strong as current WT2) WT2 (to drop scared) and WT3 (to drop ancestral and WT4 (to be mob level 150 or = to NM100) so open world stuff isnt trivial as cake
The bosses in the pit take a while to kill and can one shot you. Doesn’t make them particularly fun.
We can arrive somewhere in the middle. The overworld is not the Pit.
But TBH, WT4 WB can one shot you when you first get there at lvl 60. This is the problem with the current world tiers, they need to accommodate a range of character lvls so you can’t just tune WT4 for lvl100s. WT5 will be free of this problem since it’s solely for lvl100s.
It’s already in game. Beat the archives of issalia to unlock it.
I think the expansion might bring this but it’s not necessary to increase the difficulty bloat of the game like in D3.
yes but only Bash Barb will manage T5
And the capstone boss is supposed to be Lilith since you are asked to beat her there.
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Actually defeating Elias and his 2 underlings is what happens in archives of issalia.
Lilith isn’t the capstone boss in archives of issalia, Elias is. Lilith is the capstone boss of world tier 5’s echo chamber capstone. Which is only accesssible in wt5
Anyone who’s read the files should know that archives of issalia is in game just needs to be unlocked by the players.
Hell no, whose gonna carry my mindcaged 45 through maiden???
And in 3 months you gonna ask for Torment 6…that’s what happened to D3.
Adding +1 difficulty tier is not a proper solution.
The “grass is always greener over there” in WTx, and wherever else that’s not yet available. 
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This is the problem as we are seeing so much power creep right now and with an expansion inbound……
If we they do a WT5 it would need to be a genuine level 100 tier. They also need to recalibrate all the Capstones but they don’t do it which tells me WT5 wouldn’t get rebalanced either
I don’t care if the most difficult world tier is called WT4 or WT5. Helltides suck. Legion events suck. Why? Because the game is too easy.
I would only accept a WT5 if it dropped like 3 times the amount of summoning mats