Should you make sales via Discord? You think because you talk to someone on Discord it unbinds the item? ![]()
have you even played D2? have you played it even once online in a chaos run or baal run ?
Trade goes both ways, in your scenario the item is destroyed, but maybe i want to buy a well rolled item for 20 mil gold, which i can do now but via discord.
Yes, it should be destroyed.
But I was also responding to a post of someone who specifically said they didnāt want to trade.
Trading should be disabled.
As for buying a well-rolled item, vendors already sell items too, and they definitely can be well-rolled. So this would still be entirely possible.
Those prices should of course increase similarly to the sell prices.
Ohh nooooOooOoOo
The game might be fun!
Your mistake?
You had 3 people explain this to you 3 times each while you were tripping balls.
Maybe unplug your internet, and go touch some grass. Read a book and learn some common sense maybe?
Another thing to note is that gold will be easier to get just by playing from season 2 onward and reroll cost will overall be lower and results more favorable, so that removes another argument for trade. Add in what ever they will be talking about on the 10th and they should and could turn trading off completely.
Blizzard made some stupid horrible goof in D3 I think it was, where they created an auction house in-game but made it for real cash currency.
One of the dumbest things Iāve ever heard of, but apparently thereās people still in Diablo who think an in-game auction house has to involve RL cash and bot-farmers.
Apparently none of them have played any of the thousands of games with in-game auction houses that use the game currency (like Gold). Somehow all these thousands of games work just fine, with a healthy economy, but apparently if Diablo tried it the game would instantly be flooded with bots. Or something.
Also, for some reason, Activision created an awkward, clumsy trading system for D4. And then started banning people for trading on it, because hey, bots. Or RL money. Or something. So yeah, the awkward and clumsy system doesnāt get used either. Go figure.
Maybe someday one of the devs will log into a real game with a real auction house and figure out how one could work in Diablo, but donāt hold your breath.
It wasnāt stupid goof, it was uncharted territory and a solution to the 3rd party RMT problem. The fact that the downsides outweighed upsides doesnāt mean it wasnāt a great case study for the whole gaming industry.
Again, not the game i would want to play, personally i think they should make uniques tradable aswell. The takeaway here is that there is no consensus about what D4 should be and why listening to the players is actually a bad thing.
Listening to the players is always a bad thing and should never be done. Seldom are then more than teenagers in their parents house with very little understanding of much at all.
people always say the auction house in D3 was such a bad thingā¦
it wasnāt (didnāt realy use it that much myself) the RMAH was kinda shady but they removed the whole thing because of that.
and sure the economy was shot (but if the devs would actualy try they could find a way to prevent this and the impact of botting)
but then again⦠why would i want to trade items in this game?
WT4 is just a min/max grind you can pull off without trading (wich will just make WT4 absolete)
Listening is probably never a bad thing. Acting on it is. A developer cant ever do everything the players want, and trying to it results in a mess of a game.
Tbh, part of the issue with D4 is exactly Blizzard trying to cater to too many completely different groups at the same time.
It is not impossible. They just need to implement in ways that exclude the bad elements that just want to exploit and cheat. They also need to keep it balanced to where the 8am-2am crowd are not done with the season in 2 days, but the casuals and semi casuals still have something rewarding to look forward to. Things like handing all current renown rewards available to anyone who has completed it once, without some replacement for that activity that some found rewarding, yeah not so good.
The usual reason is the tradeoff between RNG farming āhopingā for the right item, or gold farming with the goal that eventually youāll have the gold to buy the item you want on the AH.
Not sure why people have a problem with this. Farm for RNG drops or farm for gold. Both types of players are playing the game, both are doing roughly the same activities (since gold in D4 comes mostly from selling items you donāt want anyway - barring exploits).
I suppose if someone is the type of player that finds it interesting to compete on leaderboards (which arenāt in the game) and wants other people to compete with the exact same restrictions they impose on themselves, that might matter. Although apparently thatās what solo self-found is about so they already solved that one.
because the d3 mess up will follow this franchise into its grave, and its way too late to fix it without alienating half of your userbase.
d3 was such a monumental departure from what a diablo game was that it created its own ecosystem and fans. which was fine, because d2 fans would just wait for d4. but really, d3 fans also are waiting for d4. so now you have 2 diametrically opposed populations counting on the next game being ātheirā sequel. and you have a dev team that is weak and wont make the decision of either pleasing d3 fans, or pleasing d2 fans, so they do this weak thread the line between the games even though the 2 populations that they are trying to please will never be pleased simultaneously.
There are already bots in this game lol
i get that ![]()
but why would i want that in this game? itās litteraly just min/max your gear. and outside of uberuniques, thereās not much of a hunt. legendary powers drop all the time, rare items also drop on mass, then thereās obols and what not.
if i need new boots, iāll just farm for new boots
what iām saying is, trading is pretty much redundant with the current itemization.
D3⦠now thatās a game where you NEED trading but they removed the auction house.
D2(R) trading is usefull (i once sold a set item by accident and just traded for a new one. i scrapped my weapon by accident in D4 and it took me maybe 5 minuits to find a new one)
Ha, sounds like D2 lobby back in 1.09 i once was in the lobby spamming. I was asking for a value on a WF people didnt want to pay until i found someone willing to buy it for that said price. It look me 20 hours and it was aweful.
Well, you might not want that in the game. Which is fine, if you prefer to farm for items until you get one with the combo you want, more power to you.
However if someone else wants a set of boots with 2 Evade charges and a movement bonus, why do you care if he buys them off auction house? I mean, he could go farm 2,800 boot drops until he gets the right combo, or he could farm 2,800 drops of any type, sell to vendor (or on AH) for gold, and buy the boots he wants.
It boils down to āplay it your wayā. If you prefer to play the RNG item drop lottery, go for it. If you prefer to sell all your drops and buy what you want on the AH, go for it. It gives buyers more options on what they get and how they get it, and it gives sellers more options on what to do with items that might be good but that they donāt need themselves.
Trading is actually made more important by the current itemization system, because massive affix bloat means the various items you want for your build are often quite hard to find, and very expensive to try enchanting.
It boils down to giving all players more options without taking anything away from anyone. Players can choose to not use those options, but at least they have them.
(Please note: I myself donāt need or care about having an AH. Iām just aware that it works well to promote player interaction and choice in any game Iāve played that has one. And those are things that D4 seriously lacks.)