Yes, if raid will be in Diablo IV so I am done with this game and refund D4 expansion! I am not kidding! Because it is not part of diablo game. I am not kidding! Stop ruin the game, thanks!
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This is why people need to read this stuff on their own instead of relying on streamers for their information. The word RAID was never mentioned once.
I do understand not wanting best gear locked behind it because then it becomes an MMO which no soloer signed up for. We play ARPGS to get away from that garbage. They really should release details on this so that everyone knows what they are getting.
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wanna tissue? 20chars
Sounds & looks more like World of Warcrap to me not Diablo I😒
Raids are worthless in Diablo.
- No such thing as Roles
- No real Boss mechanics
- Shallow Combat system
- Enemies cannot hit any harder than they so Solo
- Enemies just end up being sponges
- You will absolutely end up with Broken Group Comps that allow for absurd damage that no other combination can achieve making finding a group nearly impossible unless you happen to fit within that comp.
This isn’t Lost Ark, that much is clear.
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Choosing to add it like this is also disappointing, considering they should know the players want a arpg. Could have added this like they added gauntlet and its optional content for group players.
This means i have to pay a ticket for a ride i don’t want to go on, so D4 really is a amusement park now 
shows where the companies priority is.
Isn’t the whole game already Co-op? I mean, what’s the issue here? Just like the rest of the game, if you don’t wanna play with others, it’s a choice you make. You can still play all the same content. These “Raids” will likely be no different. There is no reason to get upset over something most likely being taken out of context.
If the 6th expansion does not have (insert the gripe) I’m out.
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Heck, Lost Ark really should not have forced group content either. I, and I have seen plenty others, kinda enjoyed that game, until hitting required raiding for progress.
Tbh, at this point, not even MMOs should have required group content.
Allow players to solo the dungeons and raids, either true solo, or with NPC help.
You can have harder versions for groups (like Mythic in WoW etc.), but let everyone access the content, and if there are any rewards, let them get access to some version of the rewards if they manage to solo it (of course, harder versions might offer somewhat more of those rewards).
Well, exactly because everything else in the game already support co-op, them specifying that it is co-op, and explicitly stating grouping is required, does make it sound like this one is different.
Time will tell of course.
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S5 doesnt have increased xp. 5 hours is to long blizzard doesnt respect my time. Im out.
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Lost Ark was built on Legion Raids. I agree with you that if there was an alternative that provided the same gear, even at a different pace, it would have been much better. Vykas was pretty bad, but Kakul-Sydon is where they jumped the shark on Boss mechnics.
All that aside, my point is that Lost Ark was built with group play and Boss fights in mind where Diablo is not. I would rather Diablo lean into what it is vs trying to be something that it is not.
You could draw that conclusion IF they weren’t adding Mercenaries.
I like it, there’s not much to do after 12/12 MW right now. This is a nice addition to do afterwards. However, there NEED to be a group finder or something. AND it shouldn’t not include exclusive gear, but just as something people can do.
So what you are saying… its horse races!
In my opinion, it would be acceptable if these new activities were similar to Legion Events.
It is not impossible to do them yourself, at most you can get a smaller reward because you will waste a lot more time on your own (especially on weaker/slower builds), but the presence of other players is not required. It is at most a nice addition and you do not have to join a party. You can fight side by side, without any special interaction with other players, because everyone knows how the legions work and what needs to be done.
And there would be no need for a group finder if these new activities started at a specific time (just like Legions, WB or Helltides). People would gather if they wanted to participate. This would be an easy solution for anyone - both those who play solo and those who like to play in a team.
to be honest, I see two problems:
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if this party content is too hard and you really need a good group - many will leave this game because they will not be able to find a decent group
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and the second is if it is so simple that you can do it solo with 3 random noobs from lfg, then a reasonable question arises, what’s even the point in such content, cuz they probably will try to make it mandatory with introduction of smthing like “masterworking” aka “absolutly new D3 style gems” or whatever they will call new powercreep
If they have unique rewards that can’t be obtained elsewhere I’d be pretty irritated, but something tells me that’s quite unlikely. I’m not sure it’ll even be proper raids though, so I’m going to wait to see what they’re actually going to consist of before I get too worked up. 
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I heard it was a requirement which is why I’m not buying the pre-order. They turned this game into an MMO.
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No, you aren’t going to quit over raids.
Can we all collectively just stop with the knee-jerk “IM QUITTING IF X HAPPENS”?
It’s so played out.
Well… they are calling it a co-op dungeon. If you can solo it then it wouldn’t really be a co-op dungeon, would it?