I watched the QA with DM and Ghazzy with Johnathan Rogers and the whole other game live stream

[Andarius-1597]

I think the timing is a big factor. Anyone with any level of neckbeard capability is pretty done with season 6. So this new game comes out, and season 7 isn’t out for a couple months…

It would be vastly different if POE2 launched at the same time as season 7.

[Brophog-1113]

@Andarius-1597

It would be vastly different if POE2 launched at the same time as season 7.

I don’t think it would. I think it would if the season had something going for it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some people didn’t just play the PTR and then skipped S7 because there is so little to it.

[Zederok-1757]

@Revive-1159

I just want to ask you all hyping over this other game coming out a few questions. Now that I’ve personally learned some stuff from watching the stream.

1. Do you guys know there is death penalty for XP loss ? This is present in game and likely will be modified to only happen in late game, unsure what the final is but death penalty is a thing over there

2. there are literally layers within layers within layers within layer within layers of mechanism in gearing, systems, skills etc are you all really hyping over that ?

3. The end game Atlas system is pretty cool, I can see a lot of potential there but do you know you can brick your map ? literally if you die I think 4 times in a roll you can brick all the maps around you and you won’t be able to proceed further. Your atlas has to reset. And you only get 1 try per map, if you die it is over. (if you think bricking a piece of gear is bad in D4, try bricking a whole game mode over there LOL)

4. Bosses are unforgiving, if you die you respawn at a check point and there are many 1 shot deaths everywhere think S0 and S1 Lilith for example. Which is massively frowned upon by D4 community , even to this day Lilith fight is still garbage to many.

5. You cannot do big dmg numbers over there, there is no dopamine from that factor. And the gearing and loot system has again layers and layers of layers of mechanism you can do to alter it and change it and add to it whatever i can’t even name all of things you can do.

are you guys really into a game like that ? How is that more simpler than “the other game 1” ? I think #2 is just as complex and unattractive…

I agree ascendencies are nice, I love the idea of sub classes where a main class can transform into something else. WoW had some similar too I think D4 could use some like that but everything else, oh god I hope it never will come to D4

I’ll put it like this. I am 54 years old I have been playing video games since the early 80’s when my mom would drop me off at the local arcade with a pocket full of quarters and I would game until my hands bled. I sold my entire Magic the Gathering collection to buy my first PC in 1999 so I could play Asheron’s Call. I am and always will be a fan of RPG of all kinds but MMO’s were my first love in the PC genre, Diablo, Warcraft, Titan Quest and Command and Conquer were my 2nd loves.

If you’re reading this far then continue with me, I promise I’m going somewhere with this. I have a very dear friend of mine whom I’ve known for a very long time. He enjoys sports games and FPS, titles and genres with little to no depth but plenty of player skill required. I hate those types of games, He plays games as a time waster while drinking beer and hanging with the bros. I do not play like this, I want my faculties about me, I want to be engaged with the systems and see character growth. He can’t stand games like RPG’s because it takes too much time to invest.

Diablo IV is a game built for me friend.
PoE2 is a game built for me.

There I hope this helps. Chances are most aren’t as extreme as me and my buddy and most can tolerate a little bit of both and that’s cool. I enjoyed D4 for the time I invested up until this season at least. S6 was a complete and colossal failure in my mind. But I am also fairly certain D4 will never assuage my need for depth and complexity, even as a dad gamer (or granddad in my case). PoE2 will, it’s as simple as that.

@Brophog-1113

@Andarius-1597

It would be vastly different if POE2 launched at the same time as season 7.

I don’t think it would. I think it would if the season had something going for it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some people didn’t just play the PTR and then skipped S7 because there is so little to it.

I know I am skipping it

[Randomice-2950]

Tbh 4 is a valid complaint i agree but 5 should be also in D4. Numbers are way to big!

[Aysrian-1127]

Well you could always get a carry in Labs,first couple runs where easy. Last run could be a disaster.

[Aysrian-1127]

4 is about damage migration,takes a bit of playing around to get it working for what ever build you are playing. Ya one shots out of the blue are annoying. Not all builds work well with certain creature types,You have to pick and chose affixes you put on maps carefully. That or just run maps you know you can handle .wash/rinse and repeat.