I feel bamboozled!

Well that’s not very nice. In any case, the Druid aesthetic is based on a strongman physique. Exceptional height, exceptional muscle mass, high amounts of visceral fat due to training for pure power over form, incredible caloric intake and excessive metabolic waste products lead to cardiovascular problems, respiratory issues, spinal damage, gastrointestinal issues, kidney strain, liver damage, joint problems, insulin resistance, etc. Looking like that is very, very hard on the body. They see life expectancy reductions of about 10-15 years and have some massive health problems as they age. It’s the reason why you see some notable performers like Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson, Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw dropping massive amounts of weight to get lean following their professional careers. They know it’s like asking to die years ahead of time, as does anyone associated with powerlifting. It’s very risky to look like our dear friend the Druid.

Now, obviously we can always go the “it’s a videogame” route, but our aesthetic preferences are largely based on their real-world parallels, and I don’t want to look like the Druid currently does because out in the real world it’s not healthy. Some people feel differently and that’s fine, but a lot of us are going to keep on hoping for a body slider or a range of frame options in the future. :v:

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You gave a very good answer.

I’m still liking the fantasy of a big hairy celtic strong man who is one with the woods and faces beasts of the wild like one of them.
Respected and feared by his own people.

Maybe I’m fully influenzed by Tolkien’s Beorn mixed up with my Celtic ancestors, even when I do not look like them at all.

So for me the design choice was on point.
I’m a WoW player too, playing Druid since 2005 (yes It is my fetiche class fantasy) and when they introduce Kul’Tirans I was so happy to finally being able to fulfill my personal fantasy.

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But where is the proof that it is the correlation to the druids physique? Where are you drawing the line that Blizzard didnt just make the druids look like rugged bear-like people, or just thought it fit the look of the class in their minds, but did it because DEI?

Did they make necros look like they do, not because it fit the fantasy of undead summoners, but felt the game needed anemic representation?

Is it maybe because they already had a muscular (barb), average (sorcerer), and short/small statured (rogue) character model, and wanted a physique that was unique to the class?

Tell that to the numerous actors who are famous BECAUSE of their “druid aesthetic” strongman physique. And no…they don’t drop weight simply because they want to be healthy or “more attractive” after their acting career. Half of them retire from body building and naturally lose the mass because they aren’t bodybuilding anymore. Most regular people simply don’t want to or can’t maintain the schedule required to keep a physique like that into their 30s and beyond. They have to eat and workout the majority of every day just to maintain.

Some of the most “attractive” people in the world, by most polls and metrics, are those with these bear-like physiques. It is what made them famous globally: their physique. Arnold Schwartzenegger, any wrestler-turned-actor, Hafbor, I could go on. Most of them are or have been global sex symbols, at the heights of their bearishness.

And it is absolutely ridiculous to try and make the claim that people are criticizing the aesthetic of the druid because “its not healthy in the real world”.

Hey man just so you know visceral fat is generally bad. Sure we need a bit around our organs but too much is always bad. The fat that strong men are putting on during bulk and taking off during cut should be mostly subcutaneous with little bits ending up inter muscular for quick power reserves.

With all due respect, stick to what you know or at least read a post in its entirety before responding to defend your own worldview and preference. A bodybuilder physique is NOT a strongman physique, and I’m not talking about bodybuilders. Schwarzenegger was a bodybuilder, not a strongman, and Hafþór went out of his way to lose a ton of weight that he coupled with a brief foray into amateur boxing as a means of getting healthier. I already said that I don’t prefer the aesthetic because it isn’t healthy but that others will feel differently. When people dislike the aesthetic of the Druids it is typically an inherent disgust response, yes, but our instincts are based on underlying evolutionary mechanisms and implicit understandings of the world around us, and people know that a big ol’ gut is not good for you, strong or no.

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Fully understood. That’s why I mentioned visceral fat in the first place. You’re mixing up strongmen and bodybuilders though. Strongmen don’t usually put nearly as much effort into cutting because the body naturally accumulates a certain ratio of fat to muscle when strength training and cutting makes you weaker. That’s why bodybuilders almost never have the kind of power strongmen do, the downside for the strongmen being that they do in fact hold a lot more visceral fat as a consequence. :v:

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This is the only response of yours I’ve bothered reading in its entirety. This is really sad and ironic. You are here defending your preference like this is a war, and acting like the people in this thread don’t also have the right to do the same. I am going to tldr everything you’ve put into paragraph that I’ve looked at:

“Someone in Diablo 4 has a different preference than me and had the GALL to say so on the forums, so I will now do my best to gaslight them into feeling terribly about themselves.”

That’s all this comes down to, people have a different preference than you and you done lost your crap over it. Why does the thought of having an extra option for body shapes in the game have you SO triggered?

Oh and, LOL, Arnold Schwarzenegger in no reality or universe has ever been a “druid” lmao how do you come up with these things?

Clearly you dont main necro like i do. Id pay $$$ for body transmog

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Two weeks from a heart attack.

Fat people don’t live very long.

the only kink they embraced in D4 is plumpers.
One need only look at the devs.

You call It from experiencie

I love how these morons think that the characters in world of Diablo battling literal demons are worried about healthy life styles.

You guys think the people of Sanctuary know what diabetes is lmao?

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right? That was going to be my next comment.

We are playing in a gosh darn fantasy world and these entitled ridiculous people are trying to apply “real world aesthetic” and (hahahahahaa) HEALTH to character design.

It is unbelievable…

It’s true, I died from three heart attacks last week.

Exactly, watching the druid run around is embarrassing because it waddles like the fat drunk about to fall over.

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Just wait for them to ask for a character in a wheelchair to appease those disabled gamers. On a side note, a customized tank wheelchair character rolling around might be kinda cool.

instead of a horse mount, you get wheelchair mount.

Isn’t there a wheelchair guy in some rainbow six game?

Don’t know, i don’t play that game.