Harlequin Crest aka Shako drop

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of course is not rng, because in the real world even science doesn´t understand caos, so why it would be in here? there is a code, that supousedly makes to put a random number, and they use that, but in reality, is not random, also in physics, there are even evidences that destiny is more realistic right now, beause everything have a purpose, and every piece of energy have it´s own place, and it will happen what´s about to happen. So making games saying and stating RNG, is pure fake, like gachas.

And specially they work as the same code at loot crates, gachas, etc. But the diference is there is a legal hole to say, no the player can have it and is not paying a heavy amount of money, so who cares, but in reality, we all spend months everyday, farming, etc. Doing nothing, you have done 1500 duriels runs? man, they are made to not reach them, why add only super uber in only one boss?

Or for example, why they haven´t made uber drops or even normal drops in LILITH?

because is a waste of time, your time in here, it means more players inside, less empty, and more people buying, that was the base for free to play also, it started with Team Fortress 2, they give a pretty hardcore fast game, and then they added a market to cosmetics, the diference is that the comunity could make them, so they give money for the freelancers. Even in DOTA 2 it has the same work, i can download the code and have the model to change it for other to make a cosmetic or even a difrerent model.

But companies used this stuff to excuse with microtransactions, not giving anything for freelance creators, and also adding loot boxes, a big focused FAKE RNG so you have to waste a year maybe to have it, and when you have it you won´t even need it. BUT YOU HAVE IT, they delivered. So you cannot sue them. That´s the pretty basic. Team fortress was bassed on how much people played because of good microtransactions, it costed maybe 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 dollars, but at least you knew what you bought, now everyone goes greedy, and since government doesn´t even care, because they don´t see the dmg when it have a big impact, like for example cosmetics here, that are pretty expensive. So what? who cares, they earn money, they say RNG, and everybody believes that the rat is a cat.

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Tibetan monks somehow decided that you did not deserve a Shako and have cast a hex spell on your account. You must perform an ancient ritual of cleansing to be able to have Shako drop.

You are welcome.

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How the hell do you have time to farm the mats for that many summons?

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You’re right, it’s unfair. But the game never claimed to be fair when you have RNG involved. It’s a throw of the dice each time, it sucks when it’s not in your favor, I totally empathize, but it would be a detriment to make it different in my opinion. RNG rewards perseverance and patience.

As a side note, I agree that Uber uniques should be tradable. All items actually, I don’t understand why they don’t allow trading legendaries and uniques. Being able to trade gives you an avenue to at least farm toward items that you can trade for one way or another, be it with gold or whatever. RNG sucks when it’s solo and can be super frustrating like it’s the case for you now.

What…? :melting_face:

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There is no “real” RNG. Random-ness is based on a “seed” for digital devices. In any case, if the drop rate is 2%, it means that you will have 2% chance of getting a uber unique for every Duriel kill. No more, no less.

The chances that you will definitely get an uber unique after every xxx number of tries differs from players to players. This is call LUCK.

Honestly, I would suggest a “transmog system” whereby you can convert an uber unique that you don’t want (plus some rare materials) to a uber unique that you want. And this conversion can only happen after every three months (i.e., cool down period). :grin:

This will continue to make farming Duriel continue to worth it as there is a second chance of getting what you want. Views?

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Nobody here is going to be sympathetic, they need to hate on something because the game is sub par for even a DDD game.

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What class are you farming Duriel on?

If you are not doing it on a Sorc or Drood, do the Duriel farming on a sorc or Drood. They have the fewest number of uber uniques that can drop for them.

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Yeah, but then you have to wade through a bunch of flamescars. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

At least barb drops Azurewrath in the mean time. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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They aren’t farming mats. They’re either buying them or trading for them.
I recommend finding a really sweet yellow rare that you can trade and then try finding someone who will trade duriel mats for it.

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That is how our brain works- when we not get what we want, we start to cry ,well not all of us, but most :slight_smile:
So , is there such thing like for some classes like i read up , for example sorc and druid, there is less possible chance for ubers? its kinda unfair for the game mechanism but well maybe devs have points for this.

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Sounds like a D3 entitled issue. Go back to D3 where everything is fair and comes in the mail and you dont have to play. RNG

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Well, I mean you can go as far as you want with that statement, between determinism and chaos, whether fate exists or free will, etc.
If it tastes like pudding, looks like pudding, smells like pudding, who cares if it’s something else? Even if “real” RNG doesn’t exist, the function implemented works and looks like real RNG, so let’s call it RNG instead of whatever ‘humgawz’ was going on about energy and purpose.

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The simple lesson learned for me with the extremely low drop rates and bad implementation of RNG is that I won’t chase ubers next season. Once I level and my toon feels gear capped I’ll simply be done for the season. Having ubers is more of a collector thing for me, since you obviously don’t need them to farm Duriel mats, which is a massive, boring timesink without a hint of challenge to it.

Two distinct flavors in D4:

  1. Challenge without reward… Uber Lilith and AoZ

  2. Relentless boring grind for RNG caged rewards

They need to apply rewards to the challenging parts and ease up on the RNG for the rest.

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LMAO. Yeah Ive seen some serious tinfoil hat posts from there. Like bonus content to the forums

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Bonus forum content > seasonal holiday content in-game.

Forum remains the true end game. :rofl:

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I got 2 shako within 100 runs, and they dropped back to back. And did additional 20 and I got ring of the starless nights. So I had 3 ubers drop within 120-130(give or take) duriel kills. 1 uber for 40 run average.

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I go using metaphores, i know here people don´t like it, and are like drax, everything has to be literally. But “this is the way”.

Look, imagine that you know a person who is famous (or something you wanna be), is rich or something, and he have a lot of “friends” lovers/or one great love, etc. It´s pretty perfect (by your own thought) and you think there is nothing wrong here (nothing smells fishy), so YOU want to be him. Then you try your best to copy paste him, but only in the 3rd person view, because you cannot look in his own view. So people who copy paste other styles, etc, are not even clones are “subproducts”, and here it comes Fight Club speech.

This happens because of the persepective and lack of emphaty in this case, if you don´t understand and know exactly how it feels to be like this, or what stuff it happened in his life to make him to become that, you only get a plastic dummy from a cloth shop.

IS THE SAME FOR EVERYTHING. If you don´t really understand something you cannot make a real replica. So assuming something that comes from a creedence, is like believe in God, is ok, to have your own beliefs, but don´t think they are doing right mostly in your life and your mental health- Also here, in the game, and the gameplay.

Then i use Elden Ring, for example, you get a brutal oneshot boss or even 2 or 3 bosses at the same time (plus minions), but at the same time, you can LEARN, how it works, and you can go naked witouth equipment, and parry that boss with the worst weapon in the game, THAT´s a game who rewards skill, also their movement aren´t allways the same, not because fake rng, they made the bosses and everything to REACT to you. AND THE LAST PART, you get what you need when you finish that boss (the THING witouth calling rng), that also, it will be even more harder than in this game, remember that pros in souls, they end the game, with no hit, or no death, naked and with bad weapons mostly, or tricks. So that´s a game not this.

Fake rng started with this kind of games in the PAST? ok, but man, the game industry need to be reworked, and people do or should know, so when they will get prety bored of this game, or everything else, because they only add stuff, but never change for the GOOD. This game, and everygame will die, even diablo 2 will die one day.

This game will not be game of the year at least right now, there are plenty games on the market, and maybe we have surprises.

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Yep, you have never cry, and cry is bad, because is for children right? then it happens that it relieves your suffering you have in this game, so they made this forum because they knew people were gonna suffer a lot with their games, and not because your skill. Is their policy. YOu suffer a lot, then in 10 years you get what you wanted and feel relief but in that moment you don´t even care anymore, because are better stuff.

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Dude, what are you on about. People don’t need to understand the mechanics of the universe to make a random number generator.

And no, D4 is not a game of the year, probably won’t be ever. It’s far from perfect, actually has a LOT of room for improvements. But is the RNG calculation one of these flaws? Nah, it’s fine, it fulfills its role of randomness just fine.

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None of this makes any sense. Maybe try again.