I don’t think that really has anything to do with it. Diablo 4 has an endgame, but any ARPG player knows ARPGs live and die by their seasonal content. We’re still in preseason content.
I think it speaks leagues that there’s even an endgame at all currently. I figured things like nightmare dungeons and helltides would be reserved for season 1, because that would certainly be the trademark Blizzard move. It’s what they do with WoW, anyways.
The fact remains that no other live-service game has released with an endgame as substantive as Diablo IV. It could be better, but it makes me excited for what seasons have in store for us. Hopefully we’ll know more today.
I remember back then many games you had to make your own fun. In FFX my brother and I would create perfect sphere grids. In Gran Turismo 3 we would collect every car in the game and try to max out the mileage on our polyphony f1 race cars to 999,999. My brother has a kingdom hearts save file where he collects every item 99 times to max his inventory, and maxes out the monster journal kills.
Things were different back then. And we were happy. I can only imagine our minds melting at D4 if we had something like it 20 years ago.
But that was then and this is now. D4 has its work cut out for it if it wants to have a life cycle even comparable to D3
You are not wrong. The problem is they didn’t even put in enough effort to make it rewarding for people to have fun and screw around with builds. People expect a bit more effort from a company like this.
I mean if your point is that after thousands of hours you’re out of stuff to do and want to play other games, then yeah.
You should probably do that anyways. That would be a healthy thing to do.
D4 has many problems that need addressed. But the sense of entitlement is unreal. Thousands of hours? Really? You bought a video game not a mail order bride.
I was waiting for LA for a long time and I played as soon as it was released on Steam.
I did a Berserker (and other alts…) and gameplay was nice (100% F2P).
I stopped as soon as it became a pain to level up my gear. Spend X hours to farm with X alts for an upgrade failure? No thanks.
And definitely the Abyss/Legion Raid was not for me.
But Guardian Raid was quite fun so I am quite happy having World Bosses in D4 (even if there is still improvements).
Finally, I was not fond of seeing so much players using dumb outfits (like bikini) whereas there was pretty cool armors etc.
If you think Lost Ark is a bad game then you have mental health issues. It’s the magnum opus of arpgs/mmos and has a billion systems they somehow managed to balance and make work together.
Its like a gta 5 level game. Millions and millions of dollars and 100s and 100s of devs trying to ship a gigantic product that works.
This is a mischaracterization of the live-service genre and how people interact with that style of game. The first thing to note is that no live-service game releases with thousands of hours of content readily available for the player to sift through. That’s done over years upon years of iterative content updates.
Secondly, no person has thousands of hours played in a video game at its release. That, again, is done over a period of time. People have thousands of hours in PoE because the game has been out since 2013.
I disagree with this. Itemization is not the best but getting gear is fun and rewarding. I think Ziz said it best: Gear isn’t boring, it’s simple, and despite that, it’s still fun.
Well said. I look at Destiny 2s content cadence and get quite optimistic about D4. When the game came out, it wasnt really that much content. Then they started releasing so much content over time they physically couldnt fit all the content into a regularly sized game. They had to sunset stuff and bring it back in phases.
But when the game dropped, no one knew how much of a ride they were in for.
I’ve played POE, no desire to go back at this point.
One good thing about D4, As of the last couple of days, I’m giving LA a shot. So far, I’ve already had more fun with it - and at this point it’s still free lol. Pretty sad.