Like I said, the limit would be the amount of scrolls you have - you can’t keep using the same scroll over and over again. By your logic a scroll shouldn’t exist at all. Hell, remove multiple attempts at a temper as well because it increases your chances at getting what you want (oh no).
This game has more gambling than entire casino at this point. Putting everything behind RNG layer is just lazy design.
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But that %10 may very well f up your 50h grind. You may find it acceptable. Some people don’t have 50h to waste.
It is no longer bad luck, when it happens often and to many people.
It then changes into good luck for people that is doesn’t happen to.
I’ve bricked items as well this season, with the new scroll, and also because I got 13 out of 14 rolls for the same useless stat.
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Honestly it would be better if you could select affix you actually want to temper BUT it’s range stays RNG. So you can’t technically brick an item, because it will certainly have the affixes that you want, but you will need many rerolls to reach max affix (or you may just not reach it). And that’s where re-tempering and reset scrolls could help.
I don’t understand when you say, “The Limit would be the amount of scrolls you have”.
So if I had a total of 10 scrolls, I’d be able to use all of them if I wanted to get the aspect I want?
And if I don’t get the aspect I want, whats to stop me from trying to get More scrolls?
Gets bad RNG , wants the whole system reworked LMAO…
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Everybody was temper fighting 
Good rolls got fast as lightning
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I didn’t brick single one through tempering and for me this system sucks anyway. Because I know that I just had luck to not brick an item, not the system is good.
Totally different story is with masterworks where finding amulet with GA on main stat % is very hard on it’s own, the second affix has to not be trash (so either at least max life or something else generally useful), and then you roll in that BS casino for 3rd affix. And I burned 100 million per one piece of gear to never roll anything remotely useful. And that happened twice already (for amulet only, not even counting other pieces).
Sorry, system is bad and lazy, and no amount of whiteknighting will change it. If masterworks had static cost - okay then, I would just roll until I succeed. So if I invest like 100 million with 0.5 million per roll or something, then I would rather succeed. In progressive costs you don’t have enough tries to brute force through probability.
They combined few design decisions to create single bad system.
For example:
If you have high and progressive costs for masterworks and also roll limit on temperings, then items are meant to be bricked. And that’s fine, when you have another design decision to balance this a bit - so you have high droprates of GA gear with decent probability to find replacement to try again.
And you can also reverse this - low probability of decent GA, but low RNG crafting to finish the item, so after you drop the thing you want - then you will most probably turn it into whatever you want.
But no. They decided we will burn items AND have extremely rare GA gear with non-trash affixes to maximize our frustration.
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You know what I think, I don’t think it’s weighted. I really don’t, but what I do think is that when the item drops, that item is destined to want to temper certain stats in each category. Because I was trying to figure out why so many people can roll 13 of the same garbage stat in a row. I think no matter what, there are certain tempers that just won’t roll on certain items that’s been pre decided when the item drops.
“And if I don’t get the aspect I want, whats to stop me from trying to get More scrolls?”
What’s to stop you from trying to get an item you want? Are you now going so far as to say that aiming to get a specific item is undesirable, and that EVERYTHING should be up to RNG?
The reasons scrolls are preferable is that they give you a little more control over your gear, allowing for some buffer from bad rolls. The problem is the buffer is not enough right now, and great gear is already hard to find - so finally finding it then getting screwed on tempers is not exactly an enjoyable experience.
Maybe the problem is your view, that one missing tempering affix is the differnece between good (or super after tempering) and useless piece of junk.
Maybe the problem is with you not playing the game and not knowing what it takes to push pit 100 without rolling spiritbroken.
Same to me last night, all rolls+scroll and didn’t even get ONE out of 2 tempers i wanted
If you only get one item is already ruined, just imagine not even one out of 2 in 13 tries and they were both a 1 out of 3 chances tempers lmao
Nothing is stopping me from getting anything. I’m playing the game, I’m grinding for what I want.
The make up of how Diablo 4 has this “RNG” system is what it is, and Personally I don’t mind it. Because I play the game, and I’m having fun.
You say it’s not enough, I say play the game and farm for the item you want Again.
It’s all part of the grind, and Diablo (in general) has been known to do that since DECEMBER 31st, 1996.
You sure you playing the right game?
If your not here for the Grind, then why bother?
It still wouldn’t be that bad if we actually dropped a lot of these items to just try again. But we don’t. You can use this despicable trade mechanics to pay 1 billion for single piece of nice gear only to brick it in about a minute XD
And all of that in seasonal game where you start anew every 3 months.
That’s exactly the problem, i’m still waiting to drop just a 1GA max life helm since 1 week, after tons of high pit runs (I upgraded 3 glyphs from 1 to 100 meanwhile) didn’t get even ONE 1GA max life helm, both from pit drops AND obol gambling with obols I got from those runs
I literally got 3 times more mythic uniques from doing tbosses during this week (Got 1 selig, 1 andariel’s and 1 tyrael’s) than a freaking 1GA Life crappy ancestral helm
Not asking for 3GA or even 2…not even a single ONE GA decent helm. Then, when you get it you go for tempering and you brick it (Happened twice already with pants)
Let me ask you something, Something I’ve asked other people who want things to come Easy for them.
If you managed to somehow (whether you used your scrolls or not) but if you managed to get Unlimited attempts to master work your gear to get Exactly what you want, at the highest possible amount…
perfect helmet, shoes, chest piece, rings, amulet etc etc… You master worked Everything based upon the build you made yourself (OR followed/copied) All at once…
What would you do?
Would you Kill Lilith? - no reason to do that
Would you kill any of the Tormented Bosses? - no your gear is perfect, no need to do that.
Would you farm for other gear or mats? - no, no point.
Would you push Pit? - (If there was a leader board) - I can see that but there isn’t, there wouldn’t’ be an incentive to do that. At least in my opinion a Big incentive to do it.
Tell me what Would you do? Where would you go? How long would it take you to do anything that would offer you any kind of challenge? You would be able to complete/do everything within literal Hours, and then what?
What did you spend your money on this game for? What Challenges are their?
If you fail at tempering, you have the opportunity to do it again by finding the gear again OR Something maybe better. This is a Risk/Reward system That Diablo has implemented whether people Like it or Not.
PERSONALLY, I’d rather work hard to get what I want and feel extremely Happy when I managed to get everything to what I want- That is a grand accomplishment! I’d take that then getting everything I wanted Easily handed to me and I do the content with no kind of Effort.
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So you’re basically saying there’s not even a reason to play the game since there’s no point on getting good gear and no challenge anyway
That is kinda a good point tbh, thanks for pointing out game is dead no matter how hard people try
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Yeah, I feel kinda convinced that everything is okay, because it’s not worth playing anyway as there is no single kind of content worth doing 
Which is actually true BTW, but that’s another issue. Once I squeezed my necro through pit 100 I really don’t know what more I can do. I pretty much one-shot uber T4 bosses.
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